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Key Highlights • Date of Call: July 19, 2024 • Released Transcript: July 24, 2024 • Key Executives: Amit Jain (Global CEO), Bahadur Dastoor (CFO)
Performance Overview • Order Inflow: • Q1 FY 25: INR 2,170 crores • Total for FY 24: INR 6,023 crores • Significant Projects: • South Africa: Two projects worth USD 140 million • Rajasthan: Major project valued at INR 900 crores • Revenue Target: Over INR 8,000 crores for the fiscal year
Financial Highlights • Order Book: INR 9,396 crores (71% domestic) • Q1 FY 25 Financials: • Revenue: INR 915 crores (78% YoY growth) • Gross Margins: 11% • Net Debt: INR 97 crores • Future Guidance: Anticipated revenue growth in Q2 and Q4
Project Execution and Management • Execution Timelines: • Domestic projects: 15-18 months • International projects: Similar timelines • Risk Management: Bank guarantees in place for module-related projects
Market Insights • Domestic Market Potential: Addressable market of over 23 gigawatts • Competition: Increased competition in solar project bidding noted
Concerns and Clarifications • Promoter Actions: Concerns about share pledging and stake reduction • International Business Safeguards: Measures to prevent past issues • Nigeria Project: Conservative six-month timeline for financial closure
Conclusion • Optimism for Growth: Amit Jain expressed confidence in achieving revenue and order book targets exceeding INR 8,000 crores within the financial year.
Key Executives and Financial Overview • Date of Call: April 22, 2024 • Participants: Global CEO Amit Jain, CFO Bahadur Dastoor • Financial Results: • Revenue: INR 3,034 crores (51% increase YoY) • Gross Margin: 10.3% • Positive EBITDA: INR 54 crores • Total Loss for FY24: INR 210.7 crores (high interest expenses)
Order Inflows and Future Outlook • Order Inflows: • Total: INR 6,023 crores (3.3 GW), 37% increase YoY • Domestic Orders: 10% growth • International Orders: First in three years from Spain and Italy • Future Expectations: • Robust order pipeline for FY25 • Anticipated bookings: INR 8,000 crores (excluding Reliance and Nigeria) • O&M portfolio expanded to 7.6 GW
Operational Challenges and Market Insights • Project Delays: • Over 3 GW of domestic projects delayed but expected to finalize soon • Commodity Costs: • Current bids account for market prices to mitigate cost fluctuations • Market Growth: • Projected CAGR of 15-20% over the next 3-4 years
Financial Management and Taxation • Debt Management: • Net debt reduced to INR 116 crores from nearly INR 2,000 crores • No debt repayments due until Q3 FY25 • Tax Rate: • Effective tax rate expected around 25% due to non-cash adjustments
Strategic Focus and Market Opportunities • Geographic Focus: • Emphasis on domestic markets, Middle East, Africa, and Europe • Market Opportunity: • Indian market projected between INR 25,000 to 30,000 crores with 15-25% CAGR over the next 7-8 years
Conclusion • Management Confidence: • Optimism about future order inflows and revenue growth • Strong leadership pipeline to address talent acquisition challenges • Closing Remarks: Thank you to participants for their engagement.
Key Executives Present • Global CEO: Amit Jain • CFO: Bahadur Dastoor
Financial Highlights • Order Inflow: INR 5,527 crores for the first three quarters of FY '24. • Notable projects: 221 MW in Spain, 220 MW floating solar in India. • Unexecuted Order Book: Approximately INR 8,750 crores. • Revenue for Q3: INR 583 crores (YoY improvement, sequential decline). • Gross Margin: 11.2%, with domestic EPC margins at 9.5%. • PAT Loss: INR 62 crores. • Cash and Equivalents: INR 550 crores; net debt reduced to INR 27 crores.
Market Outlook • Domestic Market: Strong growth anticipated, with a bidding pipeline of nearly 40 GW by FY '25. • International Market: Gaining momentum, especially in the Middle East. • Module Prices: Declined to below $0.13 per watt peak.
Operational Insights • Working Capital: Improving, supported by INR 1,500 crores from QIP and vendor settlements. • Negative Working Capital Cycle: Company operates within this cycle. • Future Projects: Ongoing discussions for significant projects in Nigeria and with Reliance.
Legal Matters • Ongoing litigation regarding surety bonds and bank guarantees, with some favorable court decisions.
Strategic Focus • Cost Management: Targeting overhead reduction from INR 360 crores in FY '24 to below INR 300 crores in FY '25. • International Projects: Cautious approach; focus on domestic opportunities. • Profitability Expectations: Anticipated strong performance in Q4.
Additional Inquiries • Loan Repayment: Significant loans paid off; only INR 328 crores of term debt remains. • Domestic Module Prices: Currently between $0.20 to $0.22. • Performance Bank Guarantees: Typically consist of 20% of project size.
Conclusion • The company is optimistic about its financial position and future cash flow generation, with a strong focus on domestic market opportunities while managing international risks.
Key Executives and Call Overview • Date of Call: October 26, 2023 • Participants: Global CEO Amit Jain, CFO Bahadur Dastoor • Focus: Financial results and operational highlights for Q2 FY2024
Financial Performance • Revenue: • Q2 FY2024: ₹759 Crores (88% YoY increase, 47% QoQ increase) • Driven by domestic EPC segment • Margins: • Consolidated gross margin: 8.6% • Domestic EPC margins: ~10% • International EPC margins: -2% • Profitability: • Positive consolidated EBITDA • PAT loss: ₹54 Crores
Order Inflow and Pipeline • Order Inflow: • Q2 FY2024: ₹2,640 Crores • Total for H1 FY2024: ₹3,106 Crores • Unexecuted Order Book: • Approximately ₹6,835 Crores • Domestic Order Pipeline: • Around 16 GW, primarily from public sector undertakings
Debt and Financial Challenges • Net Debt: ₹2,123 Crores • Negative Net Worth: ₹415 Crores • Loan Repayment Issues: • ₹250 Crores short-term loan, ₹135 Crores overdue • Resolution Plan: • Potential equity or debt raises up to ₹1,500 Crores
Operations and Maintenance (O&M) Segment • Current Contribution: ₹200-250 Crores in sales • Growth Expectations: Anticipated to grow 2.5 times in the coming years • Margins: • Gross margin: 25-30% • EBITDA margin: ~20%
Indemnity Claims and Funding • Indemnity Claims: • Total claim of ₹418 Crores against promoters • Due date for repayment: November 30, 2023 • Funding Requirements: • Need for ₹1,300 Crores, with ₹400 Crores expected from promoters
Management and Employee Morale • Employee Morale: High due to strong order book • Management Dynamics: No conflicts among promoters; effective collaboration
Market Conditions and Future Outlook • Solar Module Prices: Decline expected to benefit EPC players • International Orders: Cautious approach but progress noted • Nigerian Order: Revenue expected to start in Q1 or Q2 FY2025
Conclusion • The call concluded with a positive outlook on growth in both EPC and O&M segments, despite current financial challenges and market conditions.
Earnings Call Overview • Date: July 14, 2023 • Transcript released on July 18, 2023 • Key participants: CEO Amit Jain, Head of Investor Relations Sandeep Mathew
Key Updates from Management • New Orders: INR 466 crores for the quarter, mainly from existing customers. • Order Book: Unexecuted order book at INR 4,902 crores; strong pipeline of ~22 gigawatts, primarily in India. • Revenue Expectations: Anticipated growth in Q3 FY24, particularly from NTPC projects. • Solar Industry Outlook: Decline in module prices; growth potential in solar operation and maintenance in India.
Financial Highlights • Revenue: Increased to INR 515 crores, driven by domestic EPC segment. • Gross Margin: Consolidated gross margin at 11.3%, domestic EPC margins improved to 13%. • Operational EBITDA: Achieved break-even; targeting net debt reduction from INR 2,100 crores by Q4 FY24. • Revenue Target: Aiming for INR 6,000 to 7,000 crores for FY24.
Market and Competition Insights • Revenue Expectations: Higher revenues anticipated despite slow Q1, supported by a strong order book. • Competition Concerns: Lower module prices may enhance EPC margins; negotiating pass-through clauses to mitigate risks. • Promoter Share Sales: No immediate plans for equity raises; strong promoter synergy confirmed.
Project Updates • NTPC Orders: Work commenced; major revenue expected in H2 FY24. • Nigerian Project: $1.5 billion contract expected to be signed in September; revenue recognition primarily in FY25 and FY26.
Future Opportunities • Market Position: Company expects to maintain/increase market share despite new entrants. • Indemnity Inflows: Estimated INR 270 crores by September; ongoing arbitration could increase this amount. • Project Pipeline: Targeting 4 to 5 gigawatts in India; significant portion from domestic market.
Initiatives in Renewable Energy • Battery Energy Storage Systems (BESS): Ongoing projects in Australia; targeting hybrid wind projects in India. • EPC Operations: No significant capital expenditure required; prepared for increased market demand.
Conclusion • Management expressed optimism about future growth and readiness to scale operations in response to government renewable energy targets.
Conference Call Overview • Date: April 20, 2023 • Key Executives: Amit Jain (Global CEO), Bahadur Dastoor (CFO) • Focus: Financial results and operational highlights for Q4 and FY23
Financial Performance • New Orders: • FY23: INR 4,387 crores (up from INR 719 crores in FY22) • Q4: Record inflow of INR 2,165 crores • Total un-executed order book: INR 4,913 crores • Revenue: • Q4 revenue: INR 88 crores (proforma: INR 278 crores) • Gross loss: INR 4 crores; PAT loss: INR 150 crores • Provisions: • INR 61.43 crores for cost overruns • INR 165.78 crores for material replacements • INR 45.19 crores for rectification work
Future Outlook • Profitability: • Optimism for FY24 profitability; expected positive EBITDA by Q2 FY24 • Debt Management: • Negative net worth: INR 240 crores; net debt: INR 1,967 crores • Plans to start deleveraging in Q2 FY24 • Market Focus: • Targeting domestic projects; exploring international opportunities (Nigeria, South Africa, Australia)
Operational Highlights • Project Execution: • Most ongoing projects expected to complete in Q1 FY24 • No significant execution issues anticipated • Revenue Recognition: • Domestic revenue recognition to start in Q1; international jobs in Q2, with majority in Q3 and Q4
Management Insights • Cost Management: • Focus on overhead cost reductions; gradual impact on gross margins • Communication: • Emphasis on better communication regarding material developments • Legacy Projects: • Caution in taking on new international projects due to past challenges
Conclusion • Growth Confidence: • Management expresses confidence in regaining leadership position and improving performance in FY24.
Call Overview • Date: January 20, 2023 • Participants: Amit Jain (Global CEO), Bahadur Dastoor (CFO), Sandeep Thomas Mathew (Head of Investor Relations) • Content: Discussion of unaudited financial results for Q3 and nine months ending December 31, 2022, operational highlights, industry insights, and Q&A session. • Compliance: Transcript shared in accordance with SEBI regulations.
Operational Highlights • Unexecuted order book: INR 2,703 crores (84% domestic EPC projects). • New orders: Approximately 2.8 gigawatts secured in the first nine months of FY 2023. • Notable contracts: 242-megawatt project from Amplus Solar and 60-megawatt project from AMPYR Energy. • Positive trends: Declining module prices and strong demand in India and internationally. • Government initiatives: National Green Hydrogen mission to boost renewable energy.
Financial Performance • Revenue: 1.7% quarter-on-quarter increase; 51% year-on-year decline due to reduced EPC contributions. • Gross margins: Low, particularly in international EPC projects; net losses improved to INR 99 crores. • O&M segment: Contributed 7.3% to revenue; margin normalization expected. • Balance sheet: Net worth of INR 218 crores, cash equivalents of INR 181 crores, net debt at INR 1,374 crores.
Debt and Financial Strategy • Mobilization advance from NTPC: Approximately INR 220 crores confirmed. • Debt increase: Due to funding legacy projects and necessary overhead payments. • Average borrowing cost: Between 9.5% to 9.7%. • Future debt: Anticipated increase of INR 200-300 crores in Q4, with gradual decrease expected in FY '24.
Market Opportunities and Risks • Green hydrogen: Significant growth potential identified, though not manufacturing electrolyzers. • Order targets: Projected steady-state order book of $1 billion for FY '24, with 10-15% growth expected. • Risk management: Hedging against forex risks and incorporating price variation clauses in contracts.
Subcontracting and Fundraising • Subcontracting expenses: Typically 15% to 20% of revenue, expected to decrease with increased order inflow in India. • Fundraising plans: Increase in borrowing to meet project closures; no current plans for equity fundraising.
Conclusion • Growth potential: Emphasized by Amit Jain, supported by strong parent companies and a robust project execution track record.