Sastasundar Ventures Limited (SASTASUNDR)

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Summary from February 2024

Disclosure Details • Date of disclosure: February 8, 2024 • Earnings call held on: February 2, 2024 • Key executives present: • Banwari Lal Mittal (Founder & Executive Chairman) • Ravi Kant Sharma (CEO)

Financial Performance Highlights • Revenue growth: 31.1% year-on-year, reaching INR 366.8 crores • Gross profit increase: 44.7% to INR 31.1 crores • Profit after tax: INR 20.2 crores • Challenges in Healthbuddy supply chain segment • Significant growth in B2B Retailer Shakti business: 147%

Management Insights • Simplification of ownership structure ongoing • Confidence in future growth opportunities in India's healthcare sector

RetailerShakti Growth Dynamics • Inquiry by Dixit Kalra on growth balance: • Over 11,100 unique retailers in current quarter (up from 9,684) • Focus on expanding into eastern, northeastern, and northern markets • Competition in organized wholesaler space noted as an opportunity for growth

E-Pharmacy Sector Challenges • Decline in customer purchases linked to changing consumer behavior • Confidence in stabilization of purchasing patterns as customer trust grows

Healthbuddy Platform Impact • Decline in demand attributed to increased discounting by Flipkart • Focus redirected towards RetailerShakti for future growth

Financial Projections and Cost Management • Projected yield of around 10% on treasury, estimating annual other income of INR 40-50 crores • Potential cost reductions in employee and operational expenses as RetailerShakti grows

Market Discounting Behavior • Shift from growth-focused to sustainable growth approach in the start-up ecosystem • Base discount settled around 15%

Retailer Engagement and Expansion • Retailer numbers increased from 9,600 to approximately 11,000 • Ongoing expansion of Health Buddy network, albeit slower than anticipated

Working Capital and Gross Margins • Confidence in maintaining a working capital cycle of around 31 days • Reduced discounting primarily affects growth, not gross margins

Future Goals and Operational Positivity • Targeting increase of actively transacting retailers from 11,100 to 15,000 by fiscal year-end • Confidence in achieving operational positivity next year, with RetailerShakti as the growth engine

Closing Remarks • Gratitude expressed by Ravi Kant Sharma and Banwari Lal Mittal to participants • Call concluded with an invitation for future queries.

Summary from November 2023

Company PerformanceDate of Call: November 16, 2023 • Revenue: INR 355.5 crores (40% increase YoY) • Gross Profit: INR 35.1 crores (86% growth) • EBITDA: Positive at INR 0.3 crores • Profit After Tax: INR 13.1 crores • Healthbuddy Segment Revenue: INR 251.6 crores

Management FocusProfitability and Cash Flow: Emphasis on sustainable cash flow and working capital management. • Inventory Management: Targeting a 35-40 day inventory cycle. • Receivables Management: Negotiating better payment terms with pharmaceutical companies.

Financial InsightsGross Margin: Approximately 9.9%, with plans for improvement through procurement negotiations. • Revenue Segments: • RetailerShakti: Surpassed INR 100 crores quarterly. • Healthbuddy: Stabilized around INR 250 crores. • Market Share Goal: Aim to capture 10-20% of wallet share from 900,000 retailers in India.

Infrastructure and CapacityCurrent Capacity: Facilities can support 3-4 times current order processing levels. • Chronic Medications: Constitute 40-45% of the Indian pharmaceutical market.

Business VerticalsHealthbuddy: Focus on chronic medications. • RetailerShakti: Broader portfolio including acute and chronic products.

Regulatory and Strategic DevelopmentsMyjoy: Clarified as a customer, not a subsidiary. • Genu Path Labs and Genu Health Apps: Initial focus on West Bengal with long-term revenue expectations. • Regulatory Process: Ongoing with SEBI regarding public shareholding exemptions.

Digital Distribution PlatformRetailerShakti: Enhances retailer efficiency with real-time inventory visibility and reliable delivery. • Expansion Plans: Cautious growth in generic medicine offerings and plans for new warehouses.

Investor EngagementFuture Presentations: Consideration of including registered Healthbuddies numbers. • Merger and Stake Queries: Addressed inquiries about the merger with SastaSundar HealthBuddy and Flipkart Health stake.

ConclusionOptimism: Management expressed confidence in future growth and India's market potential.

Summary from August 2023

Disclosure and Key Participants • Date of call: August 17, 2023 • Submitted to: BSE and NSE on August 24, 2023 • Key executives: • Banwari Lal Mittal (Founder and Executive Chairman) • Dinkar Bagaria (CFO)

Company Performance and Strategy • Focus on: • Opportunities in India's healthcare sector • Data-driven supply chain for affordable healthcare • Digital efficiency and profitable supply chain transformation • Plans to simplify corporate structure and launch AI-based healthcare applications

Q&A HighlightsMaterial Costs: Logistics costs included in material consumption. • Government Circular: New prescription format won't materially affect operations. • B2C Platform Scalability: Online model supplements traditional pharmacies, especially in underserved areas. • Global Online Pharmacy Landscape: No fully matured online pharmacy market; China still developing. • Cash Flow Confidence: B2C business expected to achieve positive cash flow within a year.

Financial InsightsCapital Expenditures: • CAPEX: 30 crores • Inventory investments: 80 crores • Future Investments: Focus on B2B Retailer Shakti and AI health app. • Warehouse Expansion: Plans to add 17 warehouses over two and a half years.

Market Dynamics • E-Pharmacy sector dynamics: • Reduction in industry discounts stabilizing cash flow. • Shift from cash-burning strategies to efficiency and consumer experience. • Health Buddy Supply Chain: Positive performance noted, with focus on profitability.

Shareholding and Financial Services • Current promoters to retain majority stake post-investments. • Financial services income includes investment gains and interest income.

Strategic Partnerships and GrowthFlipkart Health Investment: 25% investment confirmed. • Warehouse expansion to service multiple regions. • Emphasis on quality in distribution through partnerships.

B2B and Diagnostic ServicesRetailer Shakti: Aims for guaranteed next-day delivery for pharmacies. • Genu Path Lab: Plans to leverage Genu Health app and partner with diagnostic centers.

Conclusion • Optimism about future growth and commitment to stakeholder value amidst evolving market conditions.