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Sagar Cements Limited Q1 FY25 Earnings Call Summary
Financial Performance • Quarter Ended: June 30, 2024 • Revenue: ₹561 crore (up 4% YoY) • EBITDA: ₹47 crore (margins improved to 8%) • Loss After Tax: ₹32 crore (improved from ₹42 crore in Q1 FY24)
Operational Highlights • Volume Achieved: 1.28 million tonnes (full-year target: 6.5 million tonnes) • Management Confidence: Optimistic about meeting targets despite market challenges • Expansion Plans: Ongoing efforts to enhance operational efficiencies, including solar power installations
Pricing and Market Conditions • Cement Price Trends: ₹10 drop from Q4 to Q1, with an additional ₹5 drop in the current month • Expected Price Increase: ₹10 to ₹15 per bag by mid-Q3 • Market Consolidation: Anticipated stabilization in prices as the market may have hit its bottom
Clinker Sales and Costs • Clinker Sales: Approximately 84,000 tonnes at ₹3,050 per tonne • Fuel Costs: Projected to remain stable with two-thirds of volumes hedged • Demand Decline: 20% year-on-year decrease, but recovery expected in Q3
Capacity Utilization and Future Outlook • Clinker Capacity Utilization: Estimated at 45% to 50% in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana • Industry Trends: 20% degrowth in Q1, with expectations of flat to slightly positive trends by year-end • CapEx Plans: ₹300 crore projected for the year, with ₹33 crore spent in Q1
Renewable Energy and Cost Reductions • Renewable Energy Targets: 6 MW solar power plant at Dachepalli • Cost Reductions: Estimated ₹250 per tonne reduction in clinker production costs • EBITDA Target: ₹350 to ₹375 crore for the financial year
Regional Insights and Logistics • Lead Distances: Average lead distance of 244 kilometers, with efforts to keep it below 300 kilometers • Amaravati Development Impact: Potential increase in capacity utilization by 250 to 500 basis points at the industry level
Conclusion • Management Engagement: Encouraged further inquiries and expressed gratitude for participant interest.
Sagar Cements Q4 and FY24 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Company Performance • Volume Increase: 15% increase in Q4 volumes to 1.61 million metric tons; full-year total of 5.51 million metric tons. • Revenue Growth: Q4 revenue rose to Rs. 709 crores (14% increase). • EBITDA: Improved to Rs. 68 crores with a margin of 10%. • Profit After Tax: Decreased to Rs. 12 crores from Rs. 88 crores in Q4 FY23.
Market Conditions • Demand Trends: Steady demand from infrastructure and urban real estate; rural demand softened. • Input Prices: Remained stable, aiding margin improvement. • FY25 Target: Revised target of 6.5 million metric tons, down from 7 million metric tons due to election impacts.
Analyst Concerns • EBITDA Guidance: Analysts raised concerns; current market prices are slightly lower than Q4 levels. • Future Clarity: Further details on margins expected in future calls.
Operational Focus • Cost Reduction: Aiming to enhance operational efficiencies and reduce costs. • Green Energy: Increasing usage of green energy; target of 50% green power by 2030.
Incentives and Debt Profile • Madhya Pradesh Incentive: ₹30 crore incentive sanctioned but not yet received; expected to recur annually for seven years. • Outstanding Incentives: ₹150 crore pending across several states with no clear timeline for receipt. • Debt Stability: Confidence in maintaining a stable debt profile.
Land Sale and Expansion • Vizag Land Sale: Progress stalled due to elections; optimistic for conclusion by fiscal year-end. • Andhra Cement Expansion: Modernization efforts to improve thermal efficiency and reduce costs.
Market Outlook • Demand Fluctuations: Potential slowdown post-elections; however, ongoing infrastructure focus may mitigate impacts. • Capacity Utilization: Projected increase to 50-55% for Andhra Cements unit.
Financial Management • Capex Plans: Expected total of ₹350 crore for FY '25, focused on Andhra Pradesh projects and solar upgrades. • Debt Management: No anticipated credit rating stress or need for equity raises; net debt projected between ₹1,275 crores to ₹1,300 crores.
Conclusion • Growth Projections: Anticipated single-digit growth for the year, similar to the previous year, despite a challenging first half.
Sagar Cements Q3 & 9M FY24 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Financial Performance • Volume Increase: 14% rise to 1.4 million tons; FY24 total expected at 5.6 million tons (down from 6.2 million). • EBITDA Growth: 83% increase to ₹87 crore; margins improved to 13%. • Cost Optimization: Ongoing efforts to enhance operational efficiencies and reduce costs.
Future Projections • FY25 Volume Target: Anticipated at 7 million tons, with Andhra Cements contributing 0.9 to 1 million tons. • Projected EBITDA: Around ₹310 crores for FY25, revised from ₹400 crores. • Q4 EBITDA Expectation: Anticipated between ₹130-135 crores.
Capital Expenditure (CapEx) • Current Year Maintenance CapEx: Completed; FY25 CapEx planned at ₹150 crores for new preheater construction. • Land Monetization: Ongoing process in Vizag, expected completion in 12-15 months.
Debt and Financial Management • Net Debt Stability: Expected to remain around ₹1,400-1,450 crores. • Cost of Debt: Estimated at 10%.
Land and Asset Management • Land Sale: Mutation process 95% complete; awaiting government clearance for mixed-use designation. • Equipment Sale: Clinker grinding station equipment sold for ₹18.5 to ₹20 crores.
Market Conditions • Cement Prices: Market remains flat; seasonal demand fluctuations noted. • Production Capacity: Anticipated ramp-up from 5.6 million to 7 million tons.
Operational Insights • Energy Mix: Flexibility in fuel sourcing; aim for 50% green power by FY30. • Impact of Flooding: Severe flooding in Tamil Nadu resulted in a loss of 250,000 volumes.
Additional Notes • Incentives: ₹30 crore expected from Madhya Pradesh government, received in installments over six to seven years. • Clinker Purchases: No external clinker sourced this quarter; trade share trends indicate potential return to 60% as government demand stabilizes. • Operational Leverage: A 20% increase in realization could significantly boost EBITDA per ton.
Sagar Cements Limited Q2 FY 2024 Earnings Call Summary
Earnings Highlights • Date of Call: October 20, 2023 • Revenue: Rs. 587 crores (up 24% YoY) • EBITDA: Rs. 60 crores (up from Rs. 6 crores YoY) • Loss After Tax: Rs. 11 crores • Volume Target: 6.2 million MT for FY 2024
Pricing Trends • South Region: Price increase of ₹35 per bag from mid-October • East Region: Price increase of ₹30 from September to October
EBITDA and Capacity Plans • EBITDA Target: ₹800-850 crores for the year • Capacity Expansion: From 10 million to 12 million tons by FY '25 (pending approval)
Debt Management • Gross Debt: Below ₹1,500 crores • Net Debt: Around ₹1,250-1,300 crores • CapEx Focus: Maintenance, no new projects until approvals
Margin Improvements • Operating Leverage: Expected to improve EBITDA in H2 FY 2024 • Sales Volume: 6.2 million tons projected for the full year
Regional Operations • Andhra Capacity Utilization: Approximately 40% • Clinker Utilization: Slightly higher than cement utilization, peak at 85% in August • Vizag Land Sale: Ongoing, expected to conclude in 15 months
Demand and Price Impact • Historical Trends: No significant correlation between price changes and demand • Election Influence: Anticipated high single-digit growth in the South
Future Projections • Andhra Production Increase: From 0.75 million tons this year to 1.25-1.5 million tons next year • Madhya Pradesh Volume Target: 0.85 million tons this year
Government Incentives • Incentive Structure: Fixed at ₹150 crores over seven years, contingent on 70% capacity utilization
Closing Remarks • Sustainability of Price Hikes: Requires further increases of 2-3% for adequate stakeholder service • Outlook: Cautious, with a focus on improving EBITDA margins to 18% for sustainability.
Sagar Cements Limited Q1 FY 2024 Earnings Call Summary
Earnings Overview • Date of Call: July 28, 2023 • Revenue: ₹540 crores (3% YoY decline) • EBITDA: ₹30 crores (nearly 50% drop) • Profit Margin: 6% • Reasons for Decline: • Maintenance shutdown • Competitive pricing pressures
Future Outlook • Volume Target: Approximately 6.4 million tons for the fiscal year • Projected EBITDA: Around ₹400 crores • Unit Performance: • Jeerabad unit ramp-up nearly complete • Jajpur unit expected to breakeven with 0.6 million tons output • Dachepalli unit stabilizing at 80% output, targeting 750,000 tons
Pricing and Debt Management • Pricing Stability: Minor declines in certain markets • Net Debt Target: Between ₹1,250 crores and ₹1,300 crores during expansions
Jajpur Facility Update • Capacity Utilization: Projected at 40% for the current year • Depreciation: Will begin post-commissioning of Andhra clinker expansion (FY '25 to early FY '26)
Investment in Electric Vehicles • BYD Trucks: Breakeven period of approximately 3.5 years • Future Investments: Evaluating further EV investments after six months
Industry Developments • Trade Share: Stable at 60-65% • Regulatory Changes: New regulations affecting mine operations
Fuel Prices and Sustainability • Current Fuel Prices: Spot prices around $105, with imported pet coke reaching $120 • Mitigation Strategies: Focus on efficiency and biomass alternatives • Renewable Energy Target: Increase from 27% to 50% by FY '30
Market Trends • Regional Pricing: Narrowing price gap between Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu • Demand Growth: Anticipated market growth of 8-10% despite temporary volume dip
Land Monetization Plans • Andhra Cement Land: Application for conversion and sale submitted, estimated resolution in 12-15 months • Smaller Land Parcels: Working on monetizing smaller parcels in Jayanthipuram
Conclusion • Call Closure: Reddy thanked participants and invited further inquiries.
Sagar Cements Limited Q4 FY 2023 Earnings Call Summary
Earnings Performance • Revenue Increase: 24% year-on-year to ₹622 crores. • Profit After Tax: ₹98 crores, recovering from a loss of ₹19 crores the previous year. • EBITDA: Decreased to ₹39 crores, with a margin drop to 6%.
Operational Highlights • Capacity Achievement: Reached 10 million tons capacity ahead of schedule via Andhra Cements acquisition. • Cost Management: Operational expenses rose by 1% quarter-on-quarter due to one-off sales expenditures and higher freight costs.
Market Conditions • Pricing Trends: Current price stability is unexpected despite strong demand; historical patterns align with election years. • Debt Projections: Peak net debt expected at ₹1,200-₹1,250 crores.
Future Outlook • Production Target: 6.5 million tons for the year. • EBITDA Forecast: Projected at ₹400 crores with a margin of ₹625 per ton. • Capital Expenditure: Expansion of Andhra unit from 2 million to 3 million tons, estimated CapEx between ₹275-₹350 crores.
Challenges and Strategies • Power and Fuel Costs: Anticipated reductions of ₹50 per ton in Q1 and ₹100 in Q2, despite recent increases. • Clinker Unit Setup: Challenges due to limited limestone availability near Jajpur.
Expansion and Investments • Monetization Plans: Potential sale of 107 acres of land at ₹4 crores per acre; preference for outright sales. • Long-term Growth Strategy: Plans to double production capacity by FY '35, with ongoing assessments of Andhra operations.
Conclusion • Management's Commitment: Focus on prudent growth and maintaining a strong balance sheet despite market challenges.
Acquisition Overview • Date of Call: February 17, 2023 • Acquisition: Andhra Cements Limited • Approval: National Company Law Tribunal (NCLT) on February 16, 2023 • Total Cost: ₹762 crores (includes debt settlement) • Future Investment: ₹468 crores for capacity enhancement
Strategic Goals • Market Presence: Enhance market presence and achieve 10 million tons capacity by 2025 • Operational Changes: Discontinue operations at Vizag Cement Works; plans to monetize land
Financial Insights • Debt Post-Acquisition: Gross debt of ₹1,644 crores; net debt of ₹1,432 crores • Regulatory Timeline: 90 to 120 days for new shareholding structure • Working Capital: Estimated increase to ₹75 crores as operations ramp up
Capacity Expansion Plans • Dachepalli Plant: Potential to double capacity from 3 million to 6 million tons • Utilization Rate: Target of 55% to 60% starting mid-Q1 • Production Goals: 1 million tons from Dachepalli in FY '24; total target of 6.5 million tons
Equipment and Technology • Ball Mills vs. Vertical Mills: Inefficiency of existing ball mills; limited repurposing • Technology Upgrades: Transition to a six-stage preheater for improved efficiency
Stakeholder Considerations • Minority Shareholders: Commitment to protect interests during restructuring • Land Monetization: Plans for waste heat recovery plant and potential debt reduction
Market Positioning • Competitor Awareness: Cautious of competitors increasing capacity but committed to growth targets • Long-term Goals: Doubling capacity every ten years while maintaining balanced leverage
Conclusion • Acquisition Structure: Clean transaction with no creditor obligations; focus on industrial value • Future Listing: Likely to remain listed with gradual reduction of ownership stakes • Invitation for Inquiries: Call concluded with an open invitation for further questions.
Sagar Cements Limited Q3 FY23 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Submission Details • Date of submission: February 2, 2023 • Conference call date: January 30, 2023 • Submitted to: National Stock Exchange of India and BSE Limited
Financial Highlights • Revenue: Increased by 73% year-over-year to ₹576 crores • EBITDA: Steady at ₹48 crores; margins compressed to 8% • Andhra Cement Acquisition: Successful bid pending NCLT approval
Future Outlook • Production Projections: • Q3 FY23 target: 4.9 to 4.95 million tons • Next year target: 5.5 million tons (excluding Andhra Cement) • Cost Savings: Anticipated savings of ₹100 to ₹125 per ton due to reduced fuel costs • Sales Mix: Trade to non-trade sales remains at 60% to 40% • Blended Cement Production: Plans to increase to 55%-60%
Debt and Inventory • Net Debt Expectation: ₹1,250 crores post-Andhra deal • Inventory Levels: Four-month inventory of domestic coal and 35,000 tons of pet coke
Regional Demand and Pricing • Demand Growth: Significant increases in Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, and southern states • Pricing Stability: Flat pricing with minor fluctuations; potential for stabilization and increases in upcoming quarters
Operational Insights • Andhra Cement Plant: Currently idle; details pending due to legal proceedings • Production Targets: • Jeerabad: 550,000 to 600,000 tons • Jajpur: 250,000 to 300,000 tons • Fuel Strategy: No technical limitations on using lower-grade fuels; avoiding coal with over 40% ash content
Cost Management • Projected Cost Reductions: Anticipated drop of ₹100 to ₹125 per ton from Q3 to Q4 • CapEx Plans: ₹30 crores for FY '24, excluding Andhra acquisition
Capacity Goals • Long-term Capacity Target: Aim to double capacity every ten years • Current Capacity Utilization: Expected to remain between 55% to 60%
Conclusion • Management expressed optimism about future growth and operational efficiency, inviting further inquiries from participants.