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Communication Overview • Date of communication: August 7, 2024 • Submitted to: National Stock Exchange and BSE • Purpose: Discuss unaudited financial results for Q1 FY25 • Signed by: Ashok Mishra, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer
Financial Performance • Muted Performance: Significant declines in export revenue and QA business, impacting net results by approximately Rs. 60 crores. • Order Book Growth: Increased by 11%, with over Rs. 1,300 crores in new orders. • Margin Expectations: Consultancy margins around 40%, turnkey margins between 2-3%.
Key Inquiries and Responses • EBITDA Margins: Potential to achieve closer to 20% as export orders are executed. • Employee Costs: Increase due to strategic hiring for anticipated rise in order receipts. • Agreements with NHAI and DMRC: Highlighted long-standing partnerships and strengths in highway design and metro operations. • Top-line Growth Guidance: Aims for sequential growth in revenue and improved margins. • Pending Order from Zimbabwe: Delayed due to funding issues, not currency instability. • Order Inflow Guidance for FY25: Targeting one order per day, with an 11% growth in the order book.
Revenue Mix and Consultancy Focus • Shift in Revenue Contribution: From 80:20 (IR to non-IR) in FY23 to 55:45 in the current quarter. • Consultancy Project Execution: Emphasis on expediting execution to enhance revenue contribution. • Stability of QA Margins: Margins have stabilized reflecting the new business model.
Future Outlook • Export Orders Timeline: Significant revenue from export projects expected by FY27. • Non-IR Orders: Majority are now competitive rather than nomination-based, with a focus on efficient execution and aggressive bidding.
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Conference Call Overview • Date: June 5, 2024 • Purpose: Discuss audited financial results for the year ending March 31, 2024 • Key Participants: Chairman Rahul Mithal and management team
Strategic Response to Challenges • Addressed low export order book and QA business changes • Secured two significant export orders worth INR 1,200 crore from Mozambique and Bangladesh • Diversified QA client base, improving non-IR client ratio • Achieved record consultancy revenue of INR 1,300 crore
Financial Outlook • Optimism for future growth in EBITDA and net profit margins • Revenue from new export orders expected in FY 2025 • Ongoing efforts to secure additional international contracts
Key Inquiries and Responses • Margins on Recent Orders: Tighter margins for global tenders compared to domestic ones • REMC Performance: 30% revenue increase and 37% rise in PAT • Export Orders: INR 900 crore order from Bangladesh; revenue expected by Q3/Q4 • Zimbabwe Order: Progress on securing funding; optimistic about formalizing soon
Consultancy and Order Book • Consultancy order book approximately INR 2,600 crore, with a balanced split between IR and non-IR clients • Shift in QA business from a 2:1 to a 1:1 ratio due to competition • Decline in export sales attributed to pandemic; recent successes noted
Dividend Policy and Margins • Commitment to maintain current dividend policy; debt-free status • Sustainability of consultancy margins being actively managed despite competition
Project Timelines and Growth Potential • 200 coaches for Bangladesh valued at INR 915 crore; supply timeline of 2.5 years • Turnkey projects estimated execution time of 2.5 to 3 years with margins of 3% to 4% • Positive trend in increasing average ticket size for consultancy orders
Future Growth and Strategy • Aim for substantial growth in EBITDA and profit for FY '24-'25 • Focus on order acquisition, cost optimization, and efficient execution • Current order book stands at INR 5,700 crore with over 100 orders secured in Q4
Conclusion • Confidence in the company's strategy and strengths as they celebrate their 50th anniversary • Positive momentum and outlook for future performance
Communication Overview • RITES Limited submitted a transcript of the conference call to the National Stock Exchange of India and BSE. • The call discussed financial results for Q3 FY24 and nine months ending December 31, 2023. • Communication signed digitally by Nikhil Agarwal.
Financial Performance Highlights • Year-on-year flat revenue with a profit dip of Rs. 18 crore. • Declines in export and inspection revenue; project consultancy revenue grew by 21%. • Sequential improvements: revenue, EBITDA, and PAT increased by approximately 20%, 30%, and 2%. • Over 100 orders secured in the quarter, achieving the "one order a day" goal.
Strategic Focus and Challenges • Acknowledgment of challenges in maintaining consultancy margins due to competition. • Aim for overall EBITDA margins above 20%. • Updates on international consultancy and export orders with expected revenue generation in the upcoming fiscal year.
Order Visibility and Export Opportunities • Total potential order visibility estimated at around Rs. 1500 crore. • Recent exports included locomotives and coaches; a significant wagon order in Mozambique did not materialize. • Focus on achieving revenue levels close to FY22-23 with double-digit growth in EBITDA and profits.
Consultancy Revenue and Market Engagement • RITES operates primarily as a consultancy firm, targeting over 50% revenue from consultancy services. • Actively bidding for tenders in Southeast Asia and Africa; recent orders won through competitive tenders. • Strategic consultancy model expected to contribute 25% to overall revenue growth.
Infrastructure and Project Development • Emphasis on government CAPEX push in infrastructure, with opportunities in railways, metros, and airports. • Order book split 50-50 between nomination and competitive bids; increasing competitiveness noted. • Involvement in the India-Middle East-Europe corridor, with significant revenue expected by FY26 or FY27.
Export Orders and Revenue Management • Anticipated low execution in the next two quarters due to longer lead times for locomotives. • Aim to offset margin pressures by maximizing project consultancy revenue. • Recent growth in consultancy revenue: year-on-year increase of 21% and sequential growth of 5%.
Future Outlook and Growth Strategy • Management optimistic about future growth, indicating a likely bottoming out of revenue and margins. • Focus on increasing order volume to enhance EBITDA contributions. • Recent positive developments include a ₹14 crore contract from the GEM marketplace and recognition for good governance.
Communication Overview • RITES Limited communicated the outcome of a conference call to the National Stock Exchange and BSE. • The call discussed financial results for Q2 FY '24 and half-year ending September 30, 2023. • Transcript enclosed for compliance with SEBI regulations, signed by Nikhil Agarwal.
Key Discussion Points • Management Leadership: Led by Chairman Rahul Mithal. • Performance Highlights: • Acknowledged challenges but noted progress in: • Increasing project consultancy revenue. • Diversifying client base in inspection consultancy. • Pursuing export opportunities. • Declared L1 in several tenders with an expected order value of over INR 1,500 crores.
Financial Performance • Quality Assurance (QA) Revenue: • Decline from INR 90-100 crores to INR 73 crores (Q1) and INR 78 crores (Q2). • Aiming to stabilize QA revenue and margins through client diversification. • Consultancy Revenue: • 20% year-over-year growth in project consultancy. • Overall consultancy revenue increased by 5% year-over-year. • Margins under pressure due to competitive bidding and input costs.
Export Orders • Revenue recognition starts 6-9 months post-agreement. • Expected margins lower than historical levels due to global competition. • Ongoing efforts to secure large export contracts.
Turnkey Projects • Turnkey projects not a primary revenue source. • Order book approximately INR 2,500 crores. • Selective bidding on strategic opportunities in railways and construction.
Future Outlook • Management aims for one order per day and substantial growth in FY '25. • Confidence in progress despite challenges in reaching FY '23 revenue levels. • Emphasis on maintaining a low capital expenditure trend and being debt-free.
Conclusion • The call concluded with gratitude to stakeholders and participants, highlighting the company's strategic focus and recent achievement of Navratna status.
RITES Limited Q1 FY '24 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Overview • Date of Call: July 31, 2023 • Key Participants: Chairman Rahul Mithal and management team • Focus: Financial performance for the quarter ending June 30, 2023
Financial Performance Highlights • Challenges: • Export revenue and inspection streams impacted profits by INR 16 crores and INR 10 crores, respectively. • Growth: • Domestic project consultancy revenues increased by 10% year-on-year. • Margins: • Core EBITDA margins maintained at 29.6%. • PAT margins at 21%.
Future Guidance and Strategy • FY '25 Focus: • Recover lost revenue and maintain margins. • Current order book stands at INR 5,700 crores. • Consultancy Goals: • Aim for consultancy to contribute over 50% of total revenue. • Export Contributions: • Expected growth as new orders are secured.
Key Financial Updates • Cash Position: • Cash balance of INR 836 crores (excluding client funds of INR 2,500 crores). • Capex Plans: • Low capex of INR 100-125 crores for FY '24 and '25. • Recent Wins: • Successful consultancy projects in metro expansions and sustainability initiatives.
Quality Assurance Business • Revenue Impact: • INR 15 crores revenue impact and INR 10 crores profit impact due to new inspection rates. • Client Expansion: • Efforts to broaden client base to mitigate revenue loss.
Export Orders and Domestic Consultancy • Wagon Orders: • Collaboration with SAIL-RITES for potential orders. • Domestic Consultancy Pipeline: • Healthy order book of INR 2,700 crores with 10% year-on-year growth.
Sustainability Initiatives • Dedicated Vertical: • Established to focus on sustainability projects, including government initiatives like the Swachh Bharat Mission. • Vision: • Aim to be a leading consultancy firm domestically and internationally.
Conclusion • RITES is committed to adapting to market changes while leveraging core strengths and pursuing growth opportunities in both domestic and international sectors.
Submission Details • Date of submission: May 26, 2023 • Transcript of conference call discussing financial results for Q4 FY2023 • Directed to: National Stock Exchange of India and BSE • Signed by: Joshit Ranjan Sikidar
Financial Performance • Revenue Decline: 11% quarter-on-quarter drop, mainly due to reduced rolling stock exports. • Profitability: Sustained profits with improved EBITDA (~27%) and PAT (~21%) margins. • Consultancy Revenue: Reached an all-time high with an 18% year-on-year increase; international consultancy up by 50%.
Future Outlook • Export Orders: Confidence in securing export orders soon, expected to boost revenue in FY2024. • International Consultancy Growth: Strong performance in overseas projects, particularly in Guyana, Mauritius, Bangladesh, and Nepal. • Export Business Target: Aiming for annual revenues of Rs. 400-500 crore from rolling stock exports.
Consultancy Segment • Diverse Order Book: Mix of short- and long-term projects; 50% won through competitive bidding. • Sustainability Vertical: New contracts in solid waste and water management secured. • QA Segment Growth: Significant growth expected post-ISA certification, contributing Rs. 390 crore to consultancy revenue.
Financial Strategy • Profit Distribution: Commitment to return 92.8% of profits to shareholders through dividends. • Cash Position: Strong cash reserves of Rs. 800 crore with minimal working capital needs. • Debt-Free Status: Emphasis on maintaining a debt-free balance sheet.
Competitive Landscape • High-Margin Focus: Strategy to secure high-margin consultancy orders in city planning and project management. • Leasing Business: Contributes about 5% to revenue with margins exceeding 30%. • Navigating Competition: Limiting exposure to low-margin turnkey construction projects.
Disclaimer • The company does not take responsibility for errors in the transcript. • Forward-looking statements may differ from actual results due to various factors.
Financial Performance • Order Book Growth: 10% increase, reaching INR 5,500 crores. • Turnkey Segment: Notable growth reported. • Consultancy Segment: Year-on-year growth of 16%. • Revenue Strategy: Aim to maintain consultancy revenue at over 50% of total.
Key Management Insights • Chairman Rahul Mithal: Highlighted performance despite challenges. • Export Orders: Optimism about securing new orders. • Competitive Bidding: Assurance of leveraging experience to mitigate margin impacts.
REMCL Performance • Growth: 27% revenue increase and 37% rise in PAT year-on-year. • Support for Net Zero Mission: Expected to boost revenue further.
Budget Allocation • INR 100 Crores Increase: Enthusiasm for record high capex budget of INR 10 lakh crores.
Employee Numbers • Strategic Reduction: Aimed at optimizing employee utilization.
Joint Ventures and Consultancy Growth • Israel Joint Venture: Shortlisted for a bid. • Sustainability Focus: Consultancy to maintain 50% revenue contribution.
Non-Railway Revenue • QA Revenue: INR 99 crores for the quarter. • Diversification Plans: New certifications and partnerships, including with the Ministry of Defense.
Capital Expenditure • Current Capex: INR 106 crores incurred, aligning with projections.
Competitive Landscape • Turnkey Construction: Increased competition but maintained margins through effective project monitoring.
Cash Reserves • Total Cash: Approximately INR 742 crores, with an additional INR 2,500 crores held for clients.
Revenue Guidance • Focus on Profits: Emphasis on healthy growth in profits and core EBITDA rather than strict revenue targets.
Future Prospects • REMCL Initiatives: Focus on net-zero emissions and solar/wind energy projects. • Export Inquiry Pipeline: Ongoing bids in Southeast Asia and Africa.
Project Timelines and Margins • Turnkey Projects: Typically take 3-4 years with recent margin improvements from 1.3% to 4.2%. • Consultancy Projects: Significant allocations in rail, highway, metro, and airport sectors.
Commitment to Shareholders • Interim Dividend: Announcement of a third interim dividend of INR 6 per share.