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Ramco Systems Limited Q4 FY 2023-24 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Financial Performance • Total Revenue: $63.92 million for the fiscal year. • Q4 Revenue: $15.86 million (up from $15.51 million in Q3). • Recurring Revenue: Increased to $10.34 million. • Non-Recurring Revenue: Decreased to $5.52 million. • Bookings: Totaled $27.90 million, with significant contributions from HRP and AAD. • Unexecuted Order Book: Stood at $187.55 million.
Key Achievements • EBITDA Positivity: Achieved in Q4. • Recurring Revenue Growth: 13% year-over-year. • Order Book Growth: 19% rise in order bookings. • Major Contract: Secured a multimillion-dollar deal with Korean Air (over $10 million).
Product and Market Strategies • Launch of Ramco Payce: SaaS-based payroll platform with positive market response. • Market Interest: Significant interest from potential customers post-global roadshows. • MRO Opportunities: Received a large order from a major airline, with expectations for growth in the second half of the year.
Strategic Focus • Cost Control and Profitability: Emphasis on maintaining profitability while exploring partnerships (e.g., BDO, Deloitte). • Cautious Market Expansion: Prioritizing existing markets for the next 12 to 18 months. • Defense Opportunities: Optimistic but acknowledges long project timelines.
Management Insights • Forecasting Approach: Cautious, particularly regarding EBITDA and growth targets. • Standalone vs. Consolidated Growth: Standalone business showed growth; consolidated numbers flat due to intercompany transactions. • Customer Metrics: 60% of revenue from SaaS, with 16% from new customers and 60% from cloud orders.
Future Outlook • Focus Areas: Concentration on payroll and aviation sectors for growth. • EBITDA Improvement: Expected but achieving double-digit margins may take longer. • Customer Satisfaction: A key component of the transformation strategy.
Ramco Systems Limited Q3 FY'24 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Key Financial Highlights • Revenue: $15.51 million for Q3 FY'24. • Net Loss Reduction: Decreased from $5.72 million in Q1 to $3.13 million in Q3. • Cost Savings: Achieved approximately $5.6 million annually through a cost reduction program. • Recurring Revenue: Grew to $9.8 million, marking six consecutive quarters of growth.
Strategic Partnerships • Collaborations: Announced partnerships with Deloitte India and BDO to enhance payroll platform. • Global Reach: Partnerships expected to improve market reach and business opportunities.
MRO Segment Focus • Growth Areas: Emphasis on Airframe MRO, Component MRO, and Engine MRO. • Revenue Contribution: MRO currently accounts for about one-third of total revenue.
Financial Management • R&D Spending: Approximately $9 million to $10 million annually. • Balance Sheet Cleanup: Recent provisions made to improve future profitability.
Challenges and Market Position • Performance Issues: Acknowledged challenges in product-market fit and securing large deals. • Order Booking Delays: Primarily due to macroeconomic factors; no deals lost, but customers are postponing orders.
Deal Review and Pricing Strategy • Rigorous Deal Review: Ensures alignment with product offerings. • Pricing Model Transition: Moving from fixed-bid to time-and-material pricing, leading to some contract repricing.
Customer Relations and Satisfaction • Customer Acceptance: High satisfaction despite minor attrition due to pricing changes. • Ongoing Negotiations: Addressing a provision related to a terminated contract with an aviation customer.
Future Outlook • Order Book: Stands at $180 million, expected to be consumed over the next 3 to 3.5 years. • Optimism: Management expressed confidence in future growth and improvements in order bookings.
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Ramco Systems Limited Q2 FY24 Earnings Call Summary
Key Financial Highlights • One-time Write-off: $15.10 million to clean up the balance sheet. • Revenue Growth: 3% year-over-year increase. • Order Bookings: Strong bookings of $16.6 million, especially in HRP. • Recurring Revenue: Grew over 14% year-over-year for five consecutive quarters.
Regional Performance • Asia Recovery: 86% increase in order bookings post-COVID. • Geographical Revenue: • APAC: Strong growth, reaching 35.13. • India: Steady increase, peaking at 20.28.
Strategic Focus • Product Rollout: Multi-year rollout of HRP product across multiple countries. • Conservative Provisioning: Focus on accounts receivable over three years old. • Market Position: No loss of market share; strong interest in HRP and aviation solutions.
Growth Strategy • Implementation Improvements: Efforts to reduce implementation cycles. • Deal Qualification: Strengthened processes to mitigate future bad debts. • Target Sectors: Focus on helicopter, defense, and MRO sectors; exploring government opportunities.
Customer Metrics • New Customer Revenue: Varied, with a peak of 25%. • Cloud Orders: Strong performance, averaging around 50%. • New Customers Added: 50 new customers in the latest period.
Future Outlook • Turnaround Timeline: Expected within 4 to 6 quarters. • Optimism in Aviation: Strong demand, though decision-making is slower. • Investor Engagement: Commitment to restructuring for profitable growth and future investor communication.
Revenue and Bookings Breakdown • Revenue by Business Unit: • ERP: Peaked at 32.00. • HRP: Consistent growth, reaching 30.26. • AAD: Varied performance, high of 25.58.
• Bookings by Business Unit: • ERP: Varied, peak of 31.98. • HRP: Strong performance, peaking at 44.25. • AAD: Fluctuated, high of 37.85.
• Unexecuted Order Book: Stood at 166.55, indicating a healthy pipeline.
Ramco Systems Limited Q4 FY23 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Key Highlights • Date of Call: May 17, 2023 • Management Present: Chairman P.R. Venketrama Raja, COO Sandesh Bilagi • Order Bookings: • FY23 bookings reached $90 million • 39% year-on-year growth • Significant contributions from HRP segment
Financial Performance • Recurring Revenue: Increased from $8.03 million (Q1) to $9.18 million (Q4) • Cloud Revenue: Comprises 58% of total revenue • Bad Debts: • Provisioning $2 million quarterly • $8-9 million still pending • Revenue Recognition: Shift from upfront fees to annuity-based payments
Strategic Focus • Operational Goals: • Aim for operational profitability in FY24 • Enhance operational efficiency • Market Strategy: • Target smaller companies and develop SaaS products • Increased marketing investments in U.S., Europe, Australia, and Middle East
Product Development • HRP and Aviation Sectors: Major development largely complete, focusing on quicker implementation timelines • Payroll Capabilities: Developed for 60 countries, servicing over 100 through Integrated Capability Platform (ICP)
Regional Performance • Order Intake: • Significant drop in U.S. and APAC regions • Positive growth in India and Middle East • HRP Business Growth: 50% increase in bookings, influenced by partnerships with Workday and Oracle
Future Outlook • Growth Expectations: Healthy growth anticipated in FY24 driven by strong bookings • Cost Optimization: Measures in place to achieve EBITDA positivity • Management Commitment: Focus on transparency and achieving profitability in the coming years
Conclusion • COO expressed gratitude and reiterated commitment to transformation and growth. The session concluded with thanks to participants.
Ramco Systems Limited Q3 FY23 Earnings Conference Call Summary
Key Performance Highlights • Bookings: • Q3 bookings reached $27.6 million, up 103% year-over-year. • Year-to-date bookings totaled $66.64 million, exceeding the previous financial year's total. • Recurring Revenue: • Improvements noted, with a decrease in attrition. • Unexecuted Order Book: • Stands at $191 million, indicating potential revenue growth.
Management Focus • Strategic Initiatives: • Emphasis on product development, cost optimization, and market positioning. • Caution on Macroeconomic Conditions: • Awareness of external factors affecting deal decisions.
Q&A Session Insights • Booking Levels: • Optimism about maintaining growth despite macroeconomic challenges. • Global Payroll Revenue Model: • Transitioned to a subscription-based model, primarily per-employee or per-pay slip. • Fundraising Clarification: • No equity dilution; funds raised from promoters and private equity to maintain a healthy balance sheet.
Financial Outlook • Order Book and Pipeline: • Unexecuted order book at $191 million; pipeline remains at $600 million. • Revenue Recognition Shift: • Transition from immediate license recognition to a longer-term annuity model.
Future Plans • Operational Goals: • Aim to become operationally cash positive and achieve P&L profitability. • Debt Management: • Current debt at Rs.93 crores; plans to retire debt within 2-3 years based on revenue growth.
Business Strategy • Sector Focus: • Emphasis on HR and Aviation sectors, with gradual increases expected in ERP orders. • Customer Metrics: • Revenue from new customers fluctuated between 7% and 33%; cloud orders ranged from 38% to 56%.
Conclusion • Management Confidence: • Stable leadership with no immediate plans for a new CEO. • Future Engagement: • Management expressed gratitude for participant support and engagement.
Disclaimer • Information is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for investment decisions.