Nitin Spinners Limited (NITINSPIN)

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Summary from July 2024

Q1 FY25 Earnings Conference Call Summary for Nitin Spinners Limited

Financial PerformanceRevenue: INR 803 crores, up 30% year-on-year. • EBITDA: INR 118.80 crores, margin of 14.8%. • Profit After Tax: Increased by 45.7% to INR 42.12 crores.

Industry InsightsTextile Industry Recovery: Challenges in exports due to geopolitical issues and rising logistics costs. • Domestic Cotton Price Stability: Improved conditions noted. • Focus Areas: Optimizing product mixes and cost efficiencies.

Q&A HighlightsSolar Energy Benefits: Existing capacity has reduced energy costs; additional capacity expected by year-end. • Capital Expenditure Plans: No finalized guidelines; options are being evaluated. • Margin Outlook: Improvements depend on downstream demand; current margins are being sustained. • US and Europe Demand: Gradual recovery noted; low retail inventories may boost future demand. • China Demand: Stable but lower than previous years; shift towards synthetic textiles. • Cotton-to-MMF Ratio: Cotton consumption growing at 2-3% annually, but not outpacing synthetics.

Challenges and StrategiesImpact of Red Sea Crisis: Container shortages confirmed; exploring domestic market and diversifying export destinations. • Revenue Targets for FY25: Slight upward movement possible; top line of 4,000 crores not feasible with current capacity. • Cotton-to-Yarn Spread: Increased to INR 100 per kg; prices near bottom with potential for improvement.

Expansion and InvestmentSeamless Knitting Machines: Options being assessed for planned expansion. • Geographical Diversification: Successful expansion into Japan and Africa. • Specialized Product Mix: Long-term goal to improve margins through increased share of specialized products. • Return on Investment Targets: Aiming for 15-18% ROI.

Operational InsightsCapacity Utilization: Spinning at 95-96%, weaving at 90%, knitting at 50-60%. • Maintenance Expenses: Account for about 2% of total capital costs. • Government Subsidies: Expected interest subsidies of INR 20 crores annually and capital subsidies of INR 190 crores over ten years.

Crop ExpectationsCotton Arrivals: On track with last year's figures; improved yields anticipated. • Free Trade Agreement (FTA): Optimism about potential benefits for the textile industry. • New Industrial Parks: Ongoing discussions to enhance company capabilities.

Summary from May 2024

Nitin Spinners Limited Q4 FY '24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Financial PerformanceQ4 Revenue: INR 800.71 crores (7% QoQ increase, 22% YoY increase) • Full-Year Revenue: INR 2,905.65 crores (21% increase from FY23) • EBITDA for Q4: INR 116 crores; Full-Year EBITDA: INR 377 crores (27% annual growth) • Profit After Tax (PAT): Q4 PAT: INR 39.17 crores; Full-Year PAT: INR 131.52 crores (decrease due to higher tax rate) • Debt Profile: INR 1,339 crores; recommended 25% dividend

Industry InsightsTextile Industry Recovery: Driven by stable raw material prices and increased demand despite geopolitical challenges • Cotton Prices: Stabilized, aiding planning and forecasting • Capacity Utilization: Operating at 80-90% rated capacity with potential growth in fabric business

Future OutlookExport Demand: Gradual improvement, particularly from Bangladesh, Vietnam, and increased cotton yarn imports by China • Margins: Year-end EBITDA margin of 13%, last quarter margin of 14.5%; optimism for better margins in the coming year • Debt Management: Plans to reduce debt without adding new loans in the next year

Product and Capacity ExpansionValue-Added Products: Currently 38-40% of total revenues; goal to exceed 50% in 1-1.5 years • Renewable Energy Investments: 7-8% of power from renewable sources, primarily solar; total investment of INR 100 crores over three years • Capex: Total capex over the past year and a half was approximately INR 840 crores

Market and Trade AgreementsFree Trade Agreements (FTAs): Potential benefits from FTAs, particularly with regions beyond the UK, which represents only 3-4% of total revenues • Technical Textiles: Ongoing exploration of opportunities in the growing technical textile market

Additional InsightsCotton Prices Outlook: Expected to remain stable around INR 58,000 due to favorable crop forecasts • Debt-to-Equity Ratio: Reasonable at 1.15-1.16, with plans to maintain this level • Captive Consumption: Confirmed at 20%

The call concluded with a Q&A session addressing various inquiries from participants.

Summary from February 2024

Q3 FY24 Earnings Conference Call Summary - Nitin Spinners Limited

Financial PerformanceRevenue: • Q3 FY24 revenue increased by 2% quarter-on-quarter to INR 750 crores. • Year-on-year rise of 40%. • EBITDA: • Improved to INR 103 crores with a margin of 13.7%. • Profit After Tax: • Stable at INR 31.75 crores.

Industry InsightsMarket Recovery: • Recovery in textile and cotton yarn industry due to stable cotton prices and increased export demand, especially from China. • Margin Pressures: • Margins improved but remain below normal levels due to pricing pressures.

Production and CapacityCapacity Utilization: • Current utilization at 90%, expected to increase to 95%. • Debt: • Total debt at INR 1,375 crores with annual repayments of INR 130-140 crores. • Expansion Plans: • No immediate major capacity expansion planned; focus on optimizing production and product mix.

Government IncentivesPotential Benefits: • Estimated annual benefits of around INR 40 crores from interest incentives and capital subsidies, pending final approvals.

Pricing and Sales TrendsFabric Pricing: • Stable prices for knitted fabric; woven fabric and yarn prices decreased by approximately 2%. • Sales Growth Discrepancies: • Need for clearer reporting on individual product pricing due to discrepancies in sales growth versus revenue realization.

Market ConditionsUtilization Rates: • Current utilization rates stable; previous downturn attributed to destocking. • Inventory Normalization: • Stakeholders believe the bottom of the cycle has been reached, with potential normalization by FY'25.

Export and Freight CostsExport Reach: • Extensive export across over 50 countries; increased transit times due to the Red Sea crisis may affect order timing. • Freight Costs: • New business facing increased freight costs, particularly in Europe and Latin America; existing contracts unaffected.

Financial ProjectionsInterest Costs: • Estimated interest cost for FY'25 at INR 90 crores. • Debt Structure: • Long-term borrowings of INR 970 crores and short-term borrowings of INR 375 crores; preferred debt-to-equity ratio of 1:1.

Margin Expansion FactorsEBITDA Margin Increase: • 2.5% margin increase attributed to a reduction in raw material prices; raw material to sales ratio decreased from 66% to 64%.

Conclusion • The call concluded with an invitation for further inquiries to the finance team, emphasizing the company's strategic focus amidst fluctuating market conditions.

Summary from November 2023

Nitin Spinners Limited Q2 FY24 Conference Call Summary

Financial PerformanceRevenue Growth: • 19.5% quarter-on-quarter increase to Rs. 737 crores • 45.8% year-on-year growth • EBITDA: Rs. 81 crores with an 11.12% margin • Profit After Tax: Rs. 31 crores, slight increase from previous quarter

Industry Challenges and DevelopmentsChallenges: • Geopolitical tensions and inflation affecting demand and margins • Positive Developments: • Stabilized cotton prices • Improved utilization rates in the spinning industry

Capital Expenditure and Capacity ExpansionCAPEX: Significant expansions nearing completion • Capacity Target: Increase from 72,000 tons to 100,000 tons annually

Debt and Financial OutlookDebt Repayment: • Long-term debt of approximately Rs. 145 crores due in FY25 • Rs. 106 crores repaid in the current year

Export Demand and Market TrendsExport Recovery: Cotton spinning exports rebounded to pre-crisis levels (~115 million kg/month) • Domestic Demand: • Home textiles performing well • Stable demand for woven fabrics, weak denim sector

Fabric Revenue BreakdownKnitted Fabrics: Approximately Rs. 34-35 crores • Woven Fabrics: Majority of revenue

Cotton Procurement StrategyApproach: Flexible, day-to-day strategy amid volatile prices • Price Outlook: Belief that prices are nearing a bottom due to government support

Margin and Inventory ManagementMargins: Expected revenue improvement but subdued margins due to fluctuating cotton prices • Inventory Levels: Minimal, reassessment based on market conditions

Future Growth and Product ExpansionNew Product Focus: Shift towards blended yarns and new export clients • Expected Turnover from CAPEX: Estimated additional turnover of Rs. 1,200 to 1,300 crores

International Market ExpansionExport Challenges: No new geographies added yet, exploring potential markets

Fabric Business GrowthProjected Growth: Fabric business expected to constitute 30% of total revenue, aiming for over Rs. 600 crores turnover by year-end

Industry Oversupply ConcernsImpact on Spinning Industry: Small-scale spinners facing cost pressures, but broader industry impact expected to be minimal

Cotton Crop Size EstimateProjected Crop Size: Anticipated to be similar to last year's, around 320-325 lakh bales

ConclusionClosing Remarks: Management expressed gratitude and well wishes for Diwali.

Summary from May 2023

Financial PerformanceQ4 Revenue: INR 654.80 crores (21.9% increase QoQ, 15% decline YoY) • Full-Year Revenue: INR 2,406.71 crores (down 10.6% due to reduced yarn production) • Challenges: Price volatility and demand slowdown in the cotton textile industry

Operational UpdatesProduction Utilization: Improved to 93% in Q4 • Capital Expenditures: • INR 600 crores spent (INR 560 crores on plant/machinery, INR 40 crores on working capital) • Future plans: INR 250-290 crores for capital expenditures, INR 50 crores for working capital • Debt Projections: Total debt expected between INR 1,350-1,400 crores by March 2024

Fiber Usage and TaxationFiber Composition: 91% cotton in FY23; projected shift to 85% cotton and 15% man-made fibers in FY24 • Tax Rate: 6% for the current year, expected to rise to 25% next year

Market InsightsYarn Pricing: 30s count priced between INR 265-275 • Export Market: Q4 exports at 56%, anticipated improvement compared to the previous year • Industry Trends: Global slowdown noted, but retail sales stable; some segments improving while others struggle

Production and MarginsGross Margins: Expected to improve as new capacities are added • Logistics Costs: Decreased significantly, nearing pre-COVID levels • Future Expansion: Focus on stabilizing production and optimizing capacity utilization over the next 1.5 years

Strategic FocusCaptive Consumption: Currently at 23%, expected to rise to 25-27% post-expansion • Flexibility in Production: Ability to switch between knitting and weaving based on market demand • Value Addition: Limited room for price increases in fabric segment despite stable prices

Export PerformanceYear-over-Year Decline: Exports decreased from INR 1,950 crores to INR 1,356 crores • Margins: Flat margins; need for price increases of INR 10-15 to achieve desired margins of 14%-15%

Future OutlookBlended Yarn Production: Increased demand anticipated for blended yarn • Inventory Levels: Higher raw material inventory compared to last year; nominal finished goods • Cotton Price Stabilization: Expected to stabilize around current levels due to supply-demand dynamics

Closing RemarksOperating Margins: Optimism for improvement once global conditions stabilize • Engagement Encouraged: Participants invited to reach out for further inquiries through the finance team.

Summary from February 2023

Nitin Spinners Limited Q3 FY23 Conference Call Summary

Financial PerformanceRevenue: • Q3 FY23: INR 537.20 crores (up 6.2% QoQ) • Year-on-Year: Down from INR 704.94 crores • Cumulative (9 months): INR 1,752 crores (down from INR 1,925 crores) • EBITDA: • Q3 FY23: INR 60.13 crores (11.19% margin, down from 25.27% YoY) • PAT: • Q3 FY23: INR 31.58 crores (down from INR 93.26 crores in Q3 FY22)

Industry ChallengesRaw Material Prices: High cotton prices affecting margins. • Demand Slowdown: Geopolitical tensions impacting demand. • Cotton Prices: Recent decline noted, with improved export demand.

Operational InsightsUtilization Rates: • Spinning: 90% • Weaving: Fully utilized • Knitting: 40-45% • Capital Expenditure: On track with plans to enhance product quality.

Cotton Supply and DemandSupply Situation: Farmers holding onto stocks due to high prices (35-40% above Minimum Support Prices). • Retail Demand: Cautious order placements from retailers, but resurgence noted post-Christmas.

Future OutlookMargin Goals: Aiming for 16-20% margins despite market challenges. • Capacity Expansion: • Fabric capacity completion expected by end of current quarter. • Spinning capacity operational by Q2 FY24, anticipating monthly revenue run rate of INR 300 crores.

Market FocusExport vs. Domestic: • Long-standing focus on exports; excess capacity geared towards this. • Recent recovery in demand from international markets, including China.

Cotton Pricing and InventoryCurrent Cotton Prices: INR 175-180 per kg (down from INR 200). • Yarn Pricing: Average price for 30 count yarn in Q3 was INR 280-285, currently INR 270-275.

ConclusionDemand Recovery: Anticipated normalization in demand within 6-9 months, barring geopolitical issues. • Export Growth: Successful penetration into fabric export markets, achieving 25% of fabric sales from exports.