Newgen Software Technologies Limited (NEWGEN)

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Summary from July 2024

Newgen Software Technologies Limited Q1 FY'25 Conference Call Summary

Financial PerformanceRevenue: INR 315 crores, 25% year-on-year growth. • Profit After Tax (PAT): INR 48 crores, 58% year-on-year increase. • PAT Margin: Approximately 15%, expected to stabilize around 20%.

Regional ContributionsEMEA: 25% growth. • India: 20% growth. • APAC: 65% growth. • U.S.: 13% growth.

Client Acquisition and OrdersNew Clients: 13 added. • Key Contracts: Valued at INR 10-11 crores with banks in Indonesia, Malaysia, U.S., and Qatar.

Product InnovationsNew Launch: AI-powered platform LumYn for banking sector engagement. • Focus on R&D: Commitment to continuous product innovation and strategic partnerships, including collaboration with Finastra.

Growth StrategyHistorical Growth Rate: 24% to 30% over recent quarters. • Revenue Mix: 60% from annuity streams; 15-20% from new customers. • Investment in Mature Markets: Focus on growth despite high costs.

Market InsightsPerformance in Mature vs. Emerging Markets: Strong growth in traditional markets; cautious optimism in U.S. and EMEA. • Average Deal Sizes: Increased by 20-25% over the past year.

Hiring and Employee EngagementNew Hires: Approximately 500 employees since January. • ESOP Scheme: Aimed at enhancing employee participation without significant bottom-line impact.

Go-to-Market StrategyKey Elements: Horizontal product expansion, vertical offerings, and geographic expansion. • Target Sectors: Focus on banking and insurance for vertical growth. • New Products: LumYn and NewgenONE Marvin expected to contribute to future revenue growth, with significant impacts anticipated in 3-4 years.

Summary from May 2024

Newgen Software Technologies Limited Q4 FY'24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Conference Call Overview • Date: May 7, 2024 • Key Management: Chairman Diwakar Nigam (absent due to health), T. S. Varadarajan presented. • Focus: Financial results, future business prospects, and risks of forward-looking statements. • Transcript availability: On the company’s website.

Financial Performance HighlightsRevenue Growth: 28% year-over-year to INR 1,244 crores. • Profitability: Profit after tax increased by 42% to INR 252 crores. • Cash Flow: Strong cash flow of INR 281 crores. • Client Engagement: Average revenue per customer up by 29%, with 51 new clients added. • Market Growth: EMEA (39%) and India (33%) showed significant growth.

Strategic InitiativesProduct Innovations: Launch of AI-enabled platforms and focus on vertical solutions (digital lending, trade finance). • Workforce Expansion: Increased to 4,500 employees; new offices opened in New York and Saudi Arabia. • U.S. Market Strategy: Need to reset strategies for growth in the U.S. market.

Future Growth TargetsRevenue Goal: Aiming for $500 million by FY '27, focusing on the insurance segment and mature markets. • Operating Margins: Targeting net margins of 20-21%, with potential impacts from tax rate changes. • Order Booking Growth: Concerns about normalization; emphasis on new customer acquisitions and larger deals.

Market Strategy and PricingGSI-led Strategy: Ongoing, with a focus on partnerships beyond system integrators. • Pricing Adjustments: Evaluating pricing strategy in response to rising IT costs. • Seasonal Trends: Anticipated higher growth in Q3 and Q4.

Vertical Solutions and GenAILow-Code Platforms: Development in banking and insurance for process automation. • Generative AI (GenAI): Enhancing operational efficiency; revenue generation depends on customer deployment.

M&A and Market OpportunitiesM&A Strategy: Exploring tactical acquisitions; limited viable options identified. • Growth in Mature Markets: Targeting higher growth rates (30-50%) to meet long-term revenue goals.

Sales Strategy in the U.S.Targeting Larger Banks: Shift focus to banks with assets over $20 billion; goal to acquire 25-30 accounts in three years. • Trade Finance Revenue: Expected to exceed INR 100 crores in FY '24.

Future OutlookSector Expansion: Plans to explore opportunities in healthcare and government sectors. • Marvin AI Capability: Enhancing existing products rather than serving as a separate revenue stream.

Summary from January 2024

Newgen Software Technologies Limited Q3 FY'24 Earnings Call Summary

Key Management Participants • Chairman and Managing Director: Mr. Diwakar Nigam • Whole Time Director: Mr. Varadarajan • CEO: Mr. Virender Jeet • CFO: Mr. Arun Gupta • Moderator: Ms. Aditi Patil (ICICI Securities)

Financial HighlightsRecord Revenue: INR 324 crores, 27% YoY growth • Profit After Tax: INR 68 crores, 45% YoY growth • Bonus Declaration: 1:1 bonus for shareholders • Market Growth: • India: 29% YoY growth • U.S. remains primary market for subscription growth

Business InsightsLicense Revenue: • Year-over-year decline noted; shift towards subscription-based revenues • 25% increase in license revenue over the past nine months • Sector Performance: • Financial services, especially banking, lead growth • Significant deals in healthcare, but not primary growth drivers

Product DevelopmentNewgenONE Marvin: • Gen AI-powered enhancement to automation platform • Bundled with existing offerings

Growth StrategyChallenges in U.S. Market: • Slower growth than expected; ongoing initiatives in GSI segment • Partnerships: • Collaborations with Duck Creek and Guidewire for insurance sector growth • Focus on product-to-product integrations

Revenue and Margin ManagementRevenue Growth: • 27% increase, but operational costs limit margin improvements • Future Goals: • Targeting net margin of 19% and EBITDA of 23% • Logo Growth: • Consistent net logo growth; strategic shift towards larger deals

Market OutlookEconomic Conditions: • Challenges in European markets; uncertainty in U.S. • Optimism for continued growth despite challenges • Inorganic Growth: • Exploring options but no finalized plans yet • Order Book Growth: • 20% growth over nine months

Conclusion • Management expresses hope for continued positive performance and growth in 2024.

Summary from October 2023

Newgen Software Q2 FY2024 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Conference Call Overview • Date: October 17, 2023 • Key Participants: • Diwakar Nigam (Chairman & Managing Director) • T.S. Varadarajan (Whole Time Director) • Virender Jeet (CEO) • Arun Gupta (CFO) • Deepti Mehra Chugh (Head of Investor Relations) • Transcript availability: On company website

Financial Performance HighlightsRevenue Growth: • 30% year-over-year increase to Rs. 293 Crores • Four consecutive quarters of high growth • Sector Momentum: • Strong performance in digital banking, especially in lending and trade finance • Record order of Rs. 68 Crores for a digital business platform • Regional Growth: • EMEA: 34% year-over-year growth • Americas: 30% growth, focusing on mid-size banks • Profitability: • Profit after tax: Rs. 48 Crores, up 59% year-over-year • Annuity Revenues: Increased by 26% • New Clients: 14 new logos added in Q2

Future OutlookQ3 and Q4 Expectations: • Anticipated stronger performance due to revenue timing • Order book growing faster than revenue • Implementation Revenue: Linked to strong license sales, expected to continue growing • Margin Improvements: Potential to exceed 20% if growth targets are met

Market InsightsBFSI Sector Growth: • Significant interest in digital transformation in emerging markets • Trade finance deals expected to close in upcoming quarters • Competitive Landscape: • Fragmented competition from global and regional players • Successful deal conversions noted

Strategic InitiativesNewgenOne Platform: • Driving product development and gaining traction • Hiring Plans: • Aggressive recruitment of 550-600 campus hires • GSI Contributions: • Revenue split remains at 20:80 between partners and Newgen • Market Size: • Estimated addressable market over $30 billion for ECM and Low Code

Growth StrategyMarket Expansion: • Focus on new use cases and modernization of ECM solutions • Direct Sales Enhancement: • Plans to increase direct sales efforts in the U.S. • Collection Efficiency: • Decrease in Days Sales Outstanding (DSO) from 111 to 105 days, targeting 90 days in 1-1.5 years

Conclusion • Positive remarks and well wishes for the upcoming festival season.

Summary from July 2023

Newgen Software Q1 FY'24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Conference Call Overview • Date: July 25, 2023 • Key Participants: • Diwakar Nigam (Chairman & Managing Director) • T.S. Varadarajan (Whole Time Director) • Virender Jeet (CEO) • Arun Kumar Gupta (CFO) • Focus: Q1 FY'24 financial results and future outlook • Transcript available on Newgen's website

Financial Performance HighlightsRevenue Growth: • 34% year-over-year increase to INR 252 crores • Regional growth: APAC (46%), EMEA (38%), U.S. (36%), India (25%) • Annuity Business: • Accounts for INR 168 crores (35% of total revenue) • License Revenue: • Increased 1.9 times to INR 42 crores • Customer Acquisition: • Added 13 new customers • Profit After Tax: • Grew by 57% to INR 30 crores • R&D and Marketing Investment: • 10% of revenue in R&D • 24% of revenue in sales/marketing

Growth Drivers and Market TrendsOrder Book Growth: • Increased by approximately 30% year-over-year • Sector Focus: • Strong demand in banking, insurance, and government sectors • Digital Transformation: • Emphasis on digital solutions and automation

Future OutlookRevenue Mix: • Subscription-based revenue expected to rise from 55-60% to 70-75% • Margin Expectations: • EBITDA margins around 20-21%, PAT margins at 17-18% • Attrition Rates: • Significant reduction compared to the previous year

Challenges and Strategic AdjustmentsU.S. Market: • Ongoing challenges with midsize banks, but demand remains from larger accounts • Debtor Days: • Expected to reach 120 days due to billing challenges; confidence in reducing to 100 days • Competition: • Consistent competitive landscape; larger banks value NewgenONE platform

Technological AdvancementsGenerative AI: • Opportunities to enhance products; not yet integrated into deals • Trade Finance: • Strong positioning in India and the Middle East; expectations to close 4-5 trade deals annually

Licensing TrendsShift to Perpetual Licenses: • Increasing customer requests to reduce high annuity costs; growth in perpetual licenses expected but slower than subscriptions.

Summary from May 2023

Conference Call Overview • Date: May 8, 2023 • Key Participants: • Diwakar Nigam (Chairman & Managing Director) • T.S. Varadarajan (Whole-Time Director) • Virender Jeet (CEO) • Arun Kumar Gupta (CFO) • Deepti Mehra Chugh (Head of Investor Relations) • Transcript availability: On company website

Financial Performance • Total income surpassed INR 1,000 crores, 25% YoY growth • Revenue growth by region: • India: 41% • EMEA: 28% • APAC: 17% • US: 10% • Subscription revenue: INR 323 crores, 31% YoY growth (33% of total revenue) • Stable EBITDA margins: 22% • Net profit margin: 18% • Strong balance sheet with no debt

Strategic Focus • Investment in R&D: 10% of revenues • Launch of NewgenONE platform for automation and efficiency • Expansion of customer base with increased large clients and low complaints

Market Outlook • Opportunities in enterprise automation, especially in banking and financial services • Cautious optimism about growth in the Middle East, linked to energy prices • Confidence in maintaining historical growth rate of around 20%

Key Concerns and Responses • Cash payout strategy: Focus on growth over aggressive M&A • Traction in trade finance and US strategy: Need for defined go-to-market strategy • Global System Integrators (GSI): Revenue from existing accounts improved, but new deal acquisition below expectations • Competitive landscape: Stable competition with diversified revenue streams providing resilience

Future Growth Potential • Targeting larger banking groups and new markets (Australia, UK) • Anticipated growth from both new clients and existing accounts • Cost advantages in R&D due to operations in India

Additional Insights • Interest in low-code and no-code solutions growing globally • Generative AI viewed as an opportunity for innovation • Days Sales Outstanding (DSO) increase attributed to year-end billing patterns, with a goal to reduce to around 120 days

Closing Remarks • Moderator thanked participants and invited further inquiries • Call officially ended by Newgen Software Technologies Limited

Summary from January 2023

Newgen Software Technologies Limited Q3 FY'23 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Conference Call Overview • Date: January 23, 2023 • Key Participants: • Diwakar Nigam (Chairman and Managing Director) • Varadarajan (Whole-Time Director) • Virender Jeet (CEO) • Arun Kumar Gupta (CFO) • Deepti Mehra Chugh (Investor Relations) • Transcript available on the company website.

Financial HighlightsRecord Revenue: Exceeded INR 250 crores, 26% year-on-year growth. • Subscription Revenue: Grew by 37% year-on-year. • Profit After Tax: Stable at INR 48 crores. • Total Revenue (9 months): INR 669 crores, 22% increase year-on-year. • New Logo Wins: 16 new clients across various sectors.

Market PerformanceKey Markets: Strong growth in India and EMEA. • Trade Finance: Promising pipeline in Middle East, India, and APAC. • Indian Market Growth: 30% growth driven by banks and NBFCs.

Strategic InsightsClient Retention: Deep integration makes switching vendors rare. • Growth Aspirations: Targeting $500 million in revenue in 5-7 years. • Challenges: Execution in mature markets and competition from startups.

Future OutlookQ4 and FY '24 Expectations: Confidence in stronger performance; aiming for over 25% CAGR. • Cost Management: Anticipated EBITDA margin of 22-23% next year. • Market Strategy: Focus on enhancing sales and marketing in the U.S. and Europe.

Additional InsightsGross Margins: Estimated at around 65%. • Days Sales Outstanding (DSOs): Targeting reduction to below 90 days in two years. • Corporate Tax Exposure: Currently in a tax-free zone in the UAE.

Conclusion • Overall optimism about growth trajectory, market positioning, and strategic investments to drive future success.