C.E. Info Systems Limited (MAPMYINDIA)

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Summary from August 2024

Key Executives • Co-Founder and Chairman: Rakesh Verma • CEO: Rohan Verma • CFO: Anuj Jain

Financial PerformanceRevenue Growth: • Increased by 13.5% to INR 101 crores • EBITDA rose by 14.3% to a margin of 42.8% • PAT grew by 12% to nearly INR 36 crores • Revenue Breakdown: • INR 78 crores from Map-led business • INR 23.5 crores from IoT-led business • Hardware Sales: Decreased from INR 15 crores to INR 8.9 crores, but service sales increased.

Business DevelopmentsCustomer Acquisition: New customers and expanded relationships, especially in the automotive sector. • Product Launches: Advanced e-horizon and ADAS solutions. • Legal Dispute: Addressed contract breaches with Ola Electric, reaffirming market position.

Future OutlookIoT and SaaS Growth: Optimism about future growth despite current hardware revenue decline. • Revenue Target: Aiming for INR 1,000 crores by FY '27/'28.

Market Position and CompetitionMapping Technology: Ongoing innovations and real-time updates. • Competitive Edge: Strong customer loyalty and quality assurance against competitors.

Strategic PartnershipsClarityX Partnership: Revenue fully accrued to MapmyIndia, enhancing AI-based analytics and consulting.

Management InsightsEBITDA Margin Guidance: Remains intact, with focus on long-term growth. • Automotive Segment: New contracts with Hyundai-Kia generating revenue; emphasis on upselling features.

Stakeholder EngagementYear-over-Year Performance: Encouraged stakeholders to focus on long-term trends rather than quarterly fluctuations.

Summary from May 2024

Earnings HighlightsTotal Income: INR 417.6 crores • Revenue Growth: 35% increase in revenue from operations to INR 379.4 crores • EBITDA Margin: 41% • Open Order Book: 49% growth, reaching INR 1,372 crores • New Order Bookings: 63% increase annually • IoT Business Growth: 91% year-on-year revenue increase

Key DiscussionsImportance of Hardware and SaaS: • Rakesh Verma emphasized the hardware component's role in the INR 1,000 crore business. • IoT business includes significant SaaS elements.

New Contracts: • Discussion of a new INR 400 crore contract with Hyundai and Kia. • Expected positive impact on map-led business starting Q2.

Revenue Distribution and Competition: • Rohan Verma explained broad service offerings and potential cooperation with competitors.

Partnerships and Growth Strategies: • Focus on monetization strategies for the Mappls App in FY '25. • Anticipation of more contracts following successful partnerships.

Financial InsightsRevenue Breakdown: • Approximately INR 100 crores of INR 380 crores revenue from new orders in FY '24.

EBITDA Margin and Cash Balance: • Emphasis on business growth over immediate cash returns.

Geospatial Market Opportunities: • Positive developments in international and consumer markets.

Technology and InnovationFocus on Product Solutions: • Rakesh Verma highlighted the strategy of leveraging intellectual property.

Drone Technology Integration: • Significant role in solutions, though not separately reported yet.

Intangible Assets and Investments: • Healthy organic investments reflected in increased intangible assets.

Board ExpansionNew Directors Inducted: • Rashmi Verma (Co-Founder and CTO) and Sundar Rajagopalan (expert in consumer, tech, marketing, and media).

Board Composition: • Diverse qualifications with five independent women directors.

Closing Remarks • Emphasis on maintaining strong financial performance and growth strategies. • Acknowledgment of the moderator and participants.

Summary from January 2024

Earnings HighlightsRecord Revenue: INR 92 crores for Q3, 36% YoY growth. • Year-to-Date Revenue: INR 272.5 crores, 30% increase. • EBITDA Growth: 38% increase to INR 38.6 crores; EBITDA margin at 43%. • Profit After Tax (PAT): INR 96.2 crores, up 21% YoY. • IoT Segment: Improved EBITDA margins at 10%.

Executive InsightsRakesh Verma (Co-Founder & Chairman): • Optimistic about Q4 FY2024 growth in B2B and consumer segments. • Targeting INR 1,000 crores in revenue over the next 4-5 years with 35%-40% CAGR.

Rohan Verma (CEO): • Strong order book and revenue growth across segments. • Emphasis on marketing strategies and brand awareness.

Segment PerformanceYear-to-Date Growth by Segment: • A&M: 19.5% • C&E: 43.1% • Map & Data: 37.6% • Platform & IoT: 26.5%

Cost Management and StrategyMarketing Expenses: INR 5.3 crores for Q3, focused on cost-effective strategies. • Cloud Hosting Charges: Expected to rise but managed through hybrid cloud optimizations.

International Expansion and Government RevenueCustomer-led Approach: Focus on enhancing global maps and software capabilities. • Government Sector: Selective engagement, maintaining 5-10% historical contribution.

Drone Business InsightsRevenue Model: Initial engagements may be one-time, but recurring business expected through continuous services. • Monetization: Revenue from drone sales, services, and data integration.

Client Retention and User EngagementAutomotive Sector: 100% client retention rate confirmed. • Mappls App: Highly engaged user base with plans for detailed metrics sharing.

Future Growth and FundingEquity Capital Plans: INR 500 crores to support international growth and consumer segments. • Mobility Segment Contribution: Significant addressable market with IoT devices and SaaS integration.

Marketing and Sales StrategyMarketing Expenses: Absorbed in Map-led segment to enhance brand visibility. • Sales Strategy: Focus on SaaS revenue growth despite stagnant hardware sales.

Qualified Institutional Placement (QIP)Approval: QIP approved by shareholders, with plans to proceed when conditions are favorable.

Conclusion • The call concluded with insights on a balanced growth strategy, combining organic and inorganic approaches for future investments.

Summary from November 2023

Earnings Call Overview • Date: November 1, 2023 • Transcript submitted to BSE and NSE on November 8, 2023 • Key executives discussed financial performance for Q2 and H1 FY2024

Financial Performance HighlightsQ2 FY2024 Results: • Revenue: Rs. 91.1 crores (19.4% YoY increase) • EBITDA: Rs. 40.5 crores (32.5% increase) • PAT: Rs. 33.1 crores (30.3% increase) • H1 FY2024 Results: • Revenue growth: 27.7% • EBITDA growth: 28.9% • PAT growth: 31.2% • Improvements in EBITDA margins and cash reserves exceeding Rs. 500 crores

Business Segment GrowthAutomotive and Mobility Tech (A&M): • Faster volume growth in Automotive OEM solutions • Notable wins in navigation software and shared mobility • Consumer Tech and Enterprise (C&E): • Revenue growth: 32% YoY • Fluctuations due to contract nature in BFSI and Ecommerce sectors • Successful launch of B2C app with over 10 million downloads

Competitive Landscape and Strategy"Land and Expand" Strategy: • Entering accounts with initial use cases and upselling over time • Challenges for New Entrants: • Complexities in building mapping solutions (data conversion, real-time updates) • Market Position: • Strong in map data and IoT solutions, with a competitive moat

Financial Projections and Concerns • Optimism for second half of FY2024 with strong customer acquisition pipeline • Addressed concerns about increased receivables and overdue payments • Strategic shift towards subscription-based revenue models improving IoT margins

Future Growth and Opportunities • Investment in 3D mapping and drone technology • Potential for upselling in B2C app MAPPLS and Kogo Tech Labs • Expected higher growth rates in map-led business and continued margin enhancement in IoT

Conclusion • Overall positive outlook for future growth and financial performance • Emphasis on operational efficiency and strategic investments to maintain margins

Summary from April 2023

Company OverviewDate of Call: April 24, 2023 • Executives Present: Rakesh Verma (Co-Founder & Chairman), Rohan Verma (CEO), Anuj Jain (CFO) • Financial Performance: • FY2023 revenue: INR 282 crores (41% increase) • Profit after tax: INR 108 crores (24% increase) • EBITDA margin: 42%

Key Financial HighlightsRevenue Growth: • Consumer tech and enterprise digital transformation: 48% increase to INR 130 crores • Automotive & mobility tech: 34% increase to INR 152 crores • IoT segment: 140% year-on-year growth • Order Book: • Open order book: INR 918 crores (31% increase) • New customer additions: Over 250

Strategic FocusIoT Integration: • Emphasis on a hardware-led IoT model with long-term SaaS revenue potential. • Exploring both selling and renting devices. • Market Opportunities: • Expansion in consumer apps, gadgets, and the drone market. • Upselling potential in the automotive sector (9-10% market penetration in India).

Growth GuidanceProjected Growth: • Targeting 40% revenue growth for FY '24. • Confidence supported by existing order book and anticipated new bookings.

Revenue Sources and Customer DynamicsRevenue Composition: • Approximately half from the open order book. • Focus on minimizing churn in the IoT business. • Customer Acquisition: • Majority of new customers are corporate clients, especially in automotive.

Challenges and ConsiderationsMarket Fluctuations: • Acknowledgment of external factors affecting revenue, such as semiconductor shortages. • Profitability Concerns: • Disparity between revenue growth (40%) and net profit growth (24%) noted. • Potential for improved margins as the IoT business scales.

ConclusionLong-term Vision: • Commitment to building a technology-driven company with sustained growth and profitability. • Employee Strategy: • Focus on hiring skilled personnel to support growth without proportional increases in employee costs.

Summary from February 2023

Financial Performance HighlightsRevenue Growth: • 56% YoY increase to ₹68 crores for Q3 FY2023. • 46% revenue increase year-to-date, totaling ₹209 crores. • EBITDA and PAT: • EBITDA rose 67% to ₹28 crores (41.1% margin). • PAT increased 61% to ₹30 crores (38% margin). • Expense Management: Focus on revenue growth while optimizing expenses.

Segment PerformanceAutomotive and Mobility Tech (A&M): • 45% YoY revenue growth. • Significant wins with new contracts for NCASE solution. • Consumer Tech and Enterprise (C&E): • 76% YoY revenue increase. • Growth through multi-year contracts with major tech companies.

Strategic InsightsIoT Business: Expected to drive future high-margin SaaS revenue. • Innovation Focus: Advancements in mapping, geospatial analytics, and drone solutions. • Investments: Strategic investments in small companies, particularly in the drone sector.

Q&A Session HighlightsOrder Book and Client Additions: Detailed metrics to be disclosed at year-end; quarterly updates on new customer wins. • Competition with Google: Rohan Verma emphasized focus on B2B and B2B2C markets. • Dividend Policy: Decisions based on cash requirements for strategic investments; announcement expected in May.

Additional DiscussionsRevenue Growth Clarifications: Rohan suggested looking at year-to-date trends for a clearer picture. • Operating Expenses: Rakesh noted sustainability depends on revenue growth and profitability. • Future Outlook: Optimism expressed for continued growth and performance improvements.