Jindal Stainless Limited (JSL)

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Summary from August 2024

Jindal Stainless Limited Q1 FY25 Earnings Call Summary

Earnings Call Overview • Date: August 5, 2024 • Compliance: SEBI regulations • Key Management: Abhyuday Jindal (Managing Director), Tarun Khulbe (CEO) • Performance Highlights: • 5% year-on-year increase in sales volume • Record sales achieved • Standalone revenue: INR 9,585 crores • EBITDA and PAT increased by 21% quarter-on-quarter • EBITDA per ton guidance for FY25: INR 18,000 to 20,000

Key DiscussionsRathi Operations: • Current EBITDA figures not fully representative • Target EBITDA per ton: INR 4,000 to 6,000 • Positive ramp-up progress noted

Equity-like Instruments: • INR 5,000 crore provision for growth opportunities • Plans for co-branding in consumer segments (utensils, bottles)

Import Competition: • Not exiting segments, but reducing quantities due to cheaper imports • Optimism about BIS certification norms

Financial Performance: • JUSL's throughput and cash balance discussed • Decline in cash balance attributed to inter-company loans • Small loss of INR 34 crores from Chromeni asset confirmed

Future OutlookVolume and EBITDA Guidance: • Target of 20% volume growth • EBITDA per ton range maintained: INR 18,000 to 20,000

Capex Guidance: • Increased from INR 5,200 crores to INR 5,500 crores • Q1 FY25 capex outflow: INR 2,200 crores

Management and Growth Strategies: • ESOPs granted to top 150 executives for retention • Enhancing management capabilities and training new employees • Expanding distributor network and warehouses for supply chain efficiency

Market Expansion: • Focus on new markets: Japan, South Korea, Middle East, South America • Ongoing discussions for a national stainless steel policy

Conclusion • Management expressed optimism about future growth opportunities from acquisitions and government initiatives. • Commitment to maintaining margins despite commodity price fluctuations.

Summary from May 2024

Jindal Stainless Limited Q4 and FY24 Earnings Call Summary

Earnings Call Overview • Date: May 16, 2024 • Compliance: SEBI regulations • Key Management: Abhyuday Jindal (Managing Director), Anurag Mantri, Ritesh Shah

Financial PerformanceSales Volume Growth: • FY24: 23% increase compared to FY23 • Q4: Record average sales volume of 570,362 metric tons (12% YoY increase) • Revenue: • Q4 standalone revenue: INR 9,521 crores (5% QoQ increase) • Full-year revenue: INR 38,356 crores (9% increase) • EBITDA and PAT: • Q4 EBITDA: INR 827 crores • Full-year EBITDA: INR 4,036 crores • Full-year PAT: INR 2,531 crores

Expansion PlansCapex: • Total capex of approximately INR 5,400 crores announced • New capex plan of INR 5,675 crores over three years • FY25 projected capex: INR 4,700-4,800 crores • Acquisitions: • 30% stake in Iberjindal (Spanish subsidiary) • Acquisition of Chromeni Steels

Strategic FocusSustainability: Commitment to environmental initiatives and carbon neutrality • Domestic Demand: Focus on strong domestic stainless steel demand growth • Challenges: Addressing increased imports from China and geopolitical issues affecting exports

Future OutlookVolume Growth Guidance: 20% expected growth • EBITDA Margin: Target of INR 18,000 to INR 20,000 • Operational Plans: • Completion of 1.2 million ton capacity expansion • Ongoing discussions for new Greenfield site

Nickel Price Impact • Decline in nickel prices affected margins, with a financial impact of INR 250-300 crores • Complexity in predicting medium-term nickel prices due to market factors

Dividend Policy • Current payout: 10%, with a goal to increase to 20% gradually • Focus on capital expenditures for growth over immediate higher dividends

Closing Remarks • Strong performance reaffirmed • Commitment to the Indian market and future growth expressed • Encouragement for further engagement and clarifications from participants

Summary from January 2024

Jindal Stainless Limited Q3 FY'24 Earnings Call Summary

Earnings Call Overview • Date: January 19, 2024 • Compliance: SEBI regulations • Key Personnel: Abhyuday Jindal (Managing Director), Tarun Khulbe (CEO), Anurag Mantri (Operational and Financial Performance)

Key HighlightsMarket Challenges: • Muted global demand and pricing pressures. • Rise in domestic stainless steel demand, especially in auto and infrastructure sectors.

Sales Performance: • Slight dip in sales volume due to planned maintenance. • Optimism for Q4 FY'24 sales.

Acquisitions and Production: • Acquisition of Rabirun Vinimay Private Limited to enhance product offerings. • Production commencement at Rathi Super Steel.

Government and Sustainability: • Need for government intervention to address import distortions. • Commitment to sustainability and participation in UN COP 28 Climate Summit.

Financial PerformanceVolume and Revenue: • 28% year-over-year increase in volume; 6% quarter-over-quarter decline. • Standalone revenue stable at INR 9,720 crores despite a 32% drop in nickel prices.

EBITDA and PAT Growth: • EBITDA up 8% and PAT up 41% year-over-year. • Nine-month revenue increased by 13%, with EBITDA and PAT growing by 30% and 52%, respectively.

Capex Plans: • Total capex projected at INR 3,600 crores for FY'24, up from INR 3,300 crores.

Strategic DevelopmentsAcquisition Exploration: • Board approved exploration for potential acquisitions; valuation still undetermined.

Operational Improvements: • Positive turnaround in Iberjindal's performance. • Focus on optimizing existing operations before pursuing additional capacity expansions.

Market Growth Projections: • Projected volume growth of 20% for FY'24 and 25% for FY'25.

Challenges and ResponsesRaw Material Prices: • Nickel prices have fallen; ferrochrome prices have risen. • Maintaining EBITDA per ton guidance of INR 19,000 to 20,000.

Dumping Concerns: • Increased dumping of 300 Series products from China and Vietnam. • Strong distribution network and quality as competitive advantages.

Closing Remarks • Abhyuday Jindal emphasized the positive impact of economic activity on demand and encouraged further inquiries through the Investor Relations team.

Summary from October 2023

Jindal Stainless Limited Q2 FY24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Date and HostDate: October 20, 2023 • Host: ICICI Securities

Key Management ParticipantsAbhyuday Jindal - Managing Director • Anurag Mantri - Group CFO

Operational PerformanceSatisfactory Performance: Despite muted global demand, domestic volumes increased due to: • Government initiatives • Pre-festive demand in the auto sector • Capacity Expansion: Incremental capacity of Hot Strip Mill reached 3.2 million tons in Orissa.

ChallengesExport Difficulties: Weakened global demand and pricing pressures, worsened by increased Chinese imports. • Credit Rating Upgrade: Received AA rating from CARE, indicating improved sales and financial metrics.

Innovation and SustainabilityResearch Partnership: Collaborated with IIT Bombay to enhance stainless steel technologies. • Training Programs: Conducted to promote stainless steel awareness. • Sustainability Initiatives: • Awards for energy efficiency. • Joined the Responsible Steel initiative.

Financial Performance HighlightsQ2 FY24 Results: • 26% year-on-year volume increase. • 14% rise in standalone revenue to Rs. 9,720 crores. • EBITDA grew by 54% to Rs. 1,070 crores. • PAT increased by 74% to Rs. 609 crores. • First Half FY24 Results: • Revenue up 19% to Rs. 19,748 crores. • EBITDA and PAT rose by 44% and 59%, respectively. • Divestment Plans: Intention to divest Indonesian subsidiary PT JSI due to unfavorable market conditions. • Interim Dividend: Approved at 50%. • Debt Reduction: Standalone net debt reduced by 27%.

Capital Expenditure (CAPEX)FY24 CAPEX: Expected to be Rs. 3,200 to Rs. 3,300 crores, with Rs. 2,000 crores already spent. • Future Plans: • Limited spending in FY25. • Strategic expansion in FY26 with maintenance CAPEX of Rs. 500 to Rs. 600 crores.

Cash Flow ManagementStrong Cash Flow: Over Rs. 400 crores EBITDA in H1, with Rs. 100 crores cash generation post-interest and CAPEX. • Debt Forecast: Expected reduction from Rs. 5,400 crores to approximately Rs. 4,700 crores.

Market InsightsChinese Imports Impact: Primarily affects lower-end products; company remains strong in high-end sectors. • European Market Outlook: Anticipated improvement starting January based on positive sales trends.

Q&A HighlightsIber Facility Losses: Abhyuday Jindal addressed temporary losses due to market conditions. • Product Mix and Capacity Utilization: Plans to maximize capacity for both stainless and carbon steel. • National Stainless-Steel Policy: Aims to benefit the industry by separating stainless steel from general steel policies.

Closing RemarksPositive Economic Outlook: Anticipated increase in per capita stainless steel consumption in India. • Encouragement for Inquiries: Management invited further questions through the Investor Relations team.

Summary from August 2023

Jindal Stainless Limited Q1 FY24 Earnings Call Summary

Compliance and Key Executives • Transcript submitted to BSE and NSE on August 2, 2023. • Key executives included Managing Director Abhyuday Jindal and Group CFO Anurag Mantri.

Performance HighlightsSales Growth: 8% quarter-on-quarter; 54% year-on-year volume growth. • Revenue: Standalone revenue increased by 25% to INR 10,027 crores. • EBITDA and PAT: Rose by 35% and 47%, respectively. • Challenges: Impact from subsidized imports and global stainless steel sales issues.

Strategic InitiativesAcquisition: JUSL acquisition to enhance operational synergies. • Partnership: Collaboration with Dassault Systems for production efficiency. • Sustainability Goals: 50% reduction in carbon emissions by FY 2035; Net Zero by 2050. • Support for Chandrayaan-3: Supplied critical alloys.

Financial OutlookCapex: Expected to reach INR 3,000 crores for FY '24; total capex including JUSL estimated at INR 3,200 to INR 3,300 crores. • Debt Management: Healthy debt-to-equity ratio of 0.2x; net debt to EBITDA at 0.8x. • Volume Guidance: 2.1 to 2.2 million tons for the year; potential 20-25% growth next year.

Market and Product InsightsSales Mix Focus: Emphasis on high-margin products; guidance for margins between INR 19,000 to INR 21,000. • Production Capacity: Increasing billet production capacity; no plans for forward integration into pipe manufacturing.

Subsidiary Performance • Domestic subsidiaries performing well; overseas subsidiaries lagging due to export market dependence. • Brownfield expansion expected to ramp up production to 4,000 to 5,000 tons monthly.

Investor InquiriesNet Debt Post-Acquisition: Reported at INR 4,904 crores; expected to reach INR 5,300 to 5,400 crores by March 2024. • Cost Savings: No disclosure on ferrochrome production savings due to commercial sensitivity. • Trading Strategy: Focus on raw materials rather than trading; margins may fluctuate with external slab purchases.

Conclusion • Strong economic activity driving demand; agile operations and digitization efforts highlighted. • Management expressed openness to further inquiries from investors.

Summary from May 2023

Jindal Stainless Limited Q4 FY2023 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Company PerformanceResilience Amid Challenges: • Navigated macroeconomic issues like the Russia-Ukraine war and export duties. • Volume and Sales Growth: • Achieved 6% volume growth for FY2023. • 14% year-on-year increase in Q4 sales. • Exports constituted 13% of total sales.

Capacity ExpansionNew Melting Capacity: • Commissioned one million tonne melting capacity in Jajpur. • Total capacity now at 2.9 million tonnes, ranking among top five stainless steel producers outside China.

Financial HighlightsRevenue Growth: • Q4 FY2023 revenues reached Rs. 9444 Crores. • FY2023 revenue increased by 8% to over Rs. 35,000 Crores. • Dividend Declaration: • Final dividend of Rs. 1.5 per share approved, totaling Rs. 2.5 for the fiscal year.

Strategic InvestmentsIndonesian Plant Investment: • Aimed at enhancing margin consistency and securing nickel supply. • Estimated payback period of approximately 4.5 years. • Long Products Market Entry: • Strategic move to meet customer demand and leverage government infrastructure initiatives.

Debt and Capex ManagementDebt Reduction: • Reduced net debt by 18% year-on-year. • Capex Plans: • Rs. 2500 Crores planned for FY2024, focusing on acquisitions and project expansions.

Market OutlookVolume Growth Expectations: • Anticipates 20% volume growth for FY2024. • Cautious approach to maintain EBITDA per ton.

ESG CommitmentSustainability Initiatives: • Focus on renewable energy projects and addressing corrosion management. • Regulatory Preparedness: • Actively working on sustainability measures in response to upcoming EU carbon regulations.

Future ProjectionsVolume and EBITDA Guidance: • Projected EBITDA of Rs. 800-850 Crores for the next year. • Anticipates 20-25% volume increase in FY2025.

ConclusionManagement Confidence: • Executives expressed confidence in strategic decisions and operational agility while remaining vigilant about market dynamics.

Summary from January 2023

Jindal Stainless Limited Q3 FY23 Earnings Call Summary

Key Management and Market OverviewDate of Call: January 24, 2023 • Participants: Managing Director Abhyuday Jindal, Group CFO Anurag Mantri • Market Conditions: • Challenging global stainless steel market due to macroeconomic factors. • Strong domestic demand with 95% of sales to local customers. • Positive growth in railways, pipes, and automotive sectors.

Financial PerformanceQ3 FY23 Results: • Revenue: Rs. 9,073 crores (2% YoY increase). • EBITDA: Up 37%. • PAT: Up 58%. • Nine-month revenue: Up 13% YoY. • Net debt decreased by 40% since March 2020.

Strategic InitiativesAcquisitions and Projects: • Acquisition of Rathi Super Steel Limited. • Plans for a stainless-steel industrial park in Jajpur. • Renewable energy project in collaboration with Renew Power. • Operational Recognition: Received Grooming Excellence Award from P&G.

Production and Market OutlookProduction Projections: • Monthly production volumes of 20,000 to 25,000 tons for FY24. • Anticipated increase in export volumes post removal of export duties. • Capacity Expansion: • Rathi Steel capacity: 162,000 tons per annum. • JUSL capacity to expand from 1.6 million tons to 3.2 million tons by April.

Financial Guidance and InvestmentsEBITDA Guidance: Approximately Rs. 19,000 to Rs. 20,000 per metric ton. • Renewable Power Investment: Less than Rs. 150 crores for a 26% stake, completion in 16-18 months. • Future Expansion Plans: No immediate plans to increase capacity from 3 million to 4 million tons in the next two years.

Challenges and OpportunitiesSubsidiary Losses: Attributed to global market conditions and inventory valuation issues. • Inorganic Growth: Open to acquisitions in stainless steel and mining for backward integration.

Sales Volume BreakdownSales by Grade: • 200 series: 35-40% • 300 series: 40% • 400 series: 20-25% • Export Revenue: Approximately 4% for the quarter.

ConclusionAdaptive Strategy: Emphasis on optimizing current capacity and adapting to market conditions. • Future Focus: Sustainability and renewable energy integration in future expansions.