Computer Age Management Services Limited (CAMS)

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Summary from August 2024

Q1 FY'25 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Overview • Date: August 5, 2024 • Host: Orient Capital • Key Personnel: • Anuj Kumar (Managing Director) • Ram Charan SR (CFO) • Anish Sawlani (Head of Investor Relations) • Moderator: Shivani Karwat

Financial Performance HighlightsRevenue Growth: • Overall: 26.8% • Mutual Fund (MF): 26.3% • Non-MF: 30.7% • Profit Metrics: • EBITDA: 36.6% increase • Profit After Tax (PAT): Nearly 42% growth • Assets Under Management (AUM): Crossed INR 40 trillion • Market Share: 66% in equity assets

Strategic InitiativesPartnerships: Collaboration with Google Cloud for RTA platform rebuild. • New Offerings: • 82% collection rate for new fund offerings. • 44% revenue growth in CAMSPay. • Launch of Bima Central in insurance.

Growth StrategiesTargets: • 15% growth in MF and 20% in non-MF. • Mid- to high 20s growth expected, potentially reaching 30% for non-MF. • Transaction Volumes: 50% year-on-year increase. • Unique Investor Growth: 28% compared to industry average of 20%.

Operational InsightsEmployee Costs: Increased due to appraisals and new hires; expected to stabilize. • Operating Expenses: Year-on-year increase driven by business growth; maintaining 7-8% of revenue ratio. • Cloud Transition: Shift to cloud-based infrastructure for scalability and efficiency.

Market Position and Future OutlookCompetitive Advantage: Superior technology and operational controls. • Non-MF Revenue Target: Expected to reach 20% of top line by FY'27. • KYC Records: Temporary decline due to cleanup; growth expected with increased engagement.

Conclusion • Management expressed optimism about sustained growth through technological advancements and strategic investments. • Encouragement for further inquiries directed to investor relations.

Summary from May 2024

Q4 FY'24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Overview • Date: May 10, 2024 • Host: Orient Capital • Key Personnel: • Mr. Anuj Kumar (Managing Director) • Mr. Ramcharan SR (CFO) • Mr. Anish Sawlani (Head of Investor Relations) • Moderator: Ms. Shiwani Karwat • Disclaimer: Forward-looking statements with risks and uncertainties.

Financial HighlightsStrong Performance Across Segments: • Mutual Fund revenue: • 10% quarterly growth • 33% year-on-year growth • Market share: 68% • Non-Mutual Fund revenue: • 52% year-on-year growth • Significant contributions from alternatives and payment services. • Overall Company Growth: • Revenue: 25% increase • EBITDA: 31% growth • PAT: 38.7% increase • Total revenue for the year: INR 1,136 crores (up 17%).

Business Segment DevelopmentsMutual Funds: • Secured three new mandates. • Equity AUM surged nearly 50%. • Non-Mutual Funds: • KRA segment: 90% revenue increase. • Alternatives segment: 24% revenue growth with 32 new client mandates. • Payments sector: 20% revenue increase with over 80 new client acquisitions. • Insurance Sector: • Bima Central integration with insurance companies.

Strategic InitiativesElectronic Insurance Account (EIA): • Advantages over traditional methods highlighted. • Regulatory Approvals: • Central Recordkeeping Agencies (CRAs) participation in Atal Pension Yojana (APY).

Future OutlookGrowth Prospects: • Continued focus on KRA, pay, and AIF for growth. • Exploration of acquisition opportunities in payments and insurance. • Expense Management: • Consistent expense growth anticipated due to salary increases and platform investments.

Additional InsightsMarket Dynamics: • Pricing variations in non-MF markets discussed. • Stable pricing in KRA, while other segments face price reductions. • Employee Composition: • Current headcount: ~7,800 employees, with a year-on-year increase of ~550.

Conclusion • The call concluded with a strong emphasis on operational excellence, technology investments, and a robust cash position of INR 618 crores for future growth opportunities.

Summary from February 2024

Q3 FY '24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Call DetailsDate: February 7, 2024 • Host: Orient Capital • Key Participants: • Mr. Anuj Kumar (Managing Director) • Mr. Ramcharan SR (CFO) • Mr. Anish Sawlani (Head of Investor Relations) • Moderator: Shivani Karwat • Format: Recorded session with Q&A after presentation

Company Performance HighlightsMutual Fund Mandate: • Secured RTA mandate from Unifi Capital. • Total mutual fund AUM: INR 34 trillion (22% YoY growth). • Equity AUM growth: 31%, market share increased to 66%.

Non-Mutual Fund Growth: • 3.3% increase in share. • Alternatives revenue growth: 21%. • CAMS KRA services revenue growth: 129%.

Financial Metrics: • Overall revenue growth: 18.9%. • Non-MF revenue growth: 59%. • EBITDA: 19.7% increase. • Profit After Tax (PAT): 21% increase.

Sales and Market Position • Monthly sales surpassed INR 10,000 crores, approaching INR 11,000 crores. • SIP gross sales market share: 60.5%. • CAMSPay and digital onboarding initiatives gaining traction.

Strategic Investments • Ongoing investments in platforms (Bima Central, CAMSREP, etc.) to enhance non-MF revenue. • INR 5 crores spent on initiatives this year, leading to improved profitability.

Future Outlook • Focus on expanding platforms, particularly in AIF. • Revenue model includes project-based and recurring income. • Anticipated growth in non-MF segments and improvements in EBITDA margins.

Market Opportunities • Potential for growth in the insurance sector with compulsory demat regime. • AIF sector outsourcing market remains largely untapped.

Analyst Inquiries • Discussion on EBITDA margins for MF and non-MF segments. • Suggestions for improved reporting formats and profitability data in future presentations.

Summary from November 2023

Conference Call Overview • Date: November 9, 2023 • Hosted by: Orient Capital • Key Personnel: • Managing Director: Mr. Anuj Kumar • CFO: Mr. Ramcharan SR • Head of Investor Relations: Mr. Anish Sawlani • Moderator: Ms. Shivani Karwat • Purpose: Discuss financial performance and outlook, with Q&A session.

Financial Performance HighlightsGrowth Metrics: • AUM reached over Rs. 32 lakh crore (20% YoY increase). • Equity AUM surpassed Rs. 15 lakh crore (28% growth). • Market share maintained at 68.5% in mutual funds. • Non-mutual fund revenue grew 47% YoY. • Financial Metrics: • Revenue: Up 13.5% • EBITDA: Up 15.5% • Profit After Tax: Up 17% • Transaction Volumes: • Record levels indicating strong retail participation.

Advancements in Technology and ServicesPayments and Technology: • Increased adoption of UPI and auto-pay for SIPs. • 3x rise in monthly transaction volumes. • Over 100% YoY revenue growth in KYC solutions. • New Initiatives: • Launch of Bima Central app for insurance management. • 40% YoY increase in electronic Insurance Account (eIA) additions. • CRM and Product Development: • Strong position in A&P; development of innovative products like geo wealth index and generative AI applications.

Financial Insights from CFORevenue Growth: • Revenue reached 275 crores (13.5% YoY increase). • AUM growth contributed to a 10% increase in mutual fund revenue. • Cost Management: • EBITDA margin at 44.5%. • Effective cost control reflected in PAT of 84.5 crores. • Future Outlook: • Anticipation of stable yields and growth in non-MF revenue.

Discussion Points and ConcernsRevenue Alignment: • AUM growth of 20% not aligning with revenue growth (10%). • Non-Asset-Based Revenue: • Flat revenues despite market activity; expectations for stability moving forward. • Pricing Models: • No changes in pricing for AIFs and mutual funds despite competition. • Insurance Revenue: • Growth in eIA accounts but decline in outsourcing services impacting overall revenue.

Strategic FocusDigital Transactions: • Shift towards digital processes in fintech. • Emphasis on automation to drive efficiency and revenue growth. • SIP vs. HNI Investments: • Growth in SIP collections exceeding Rs. 10,000 crore monthly. • Account Aggregator Platform: • All public sector banks onboard; modest revenue growth projected.

Conclusion • The call highlighted a robust growth trajectory, advancements in technology, and a strategic focus on digital transformation to enhance efficiency and revenue across various business lines.

Summary from August 2023

Q1 FY '24 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Call Overview • Date: August 7, 2023 • Key Personnel: • Managing Director: Mr. Anuj Kumar • CFO: Mr. Ramcharan SR • Head of Investor Relations: Mr. Anish Sawlani • Moderator: Mr. Nachiket Kale from Orient Capital • Purpose: Discuss company performance and outlook, followed by Q&A.

Key Achievements • New RTA mandates from Angel One and Torus Oro. • Market share increased from 68.3% to 68.7%. • Revenue growth: • 19% in Alternatives. • 25% in CAMSPay. • 40% in CAMS KRA. • Industry-first 10-minute KYC solution introduced. • Contracts secured for video KYC services and alternative credit scoring. • Digital platform myCAMS reached over 6 million registrations. • Recognized as one of the top 100 global fintechs.

Mutual Fund Sector Growth • SIP registrations rose from 4 million to 4.7 million. • Market share increased from 62% to 65.2%. • Gross sales increased from INR 24,600 crores to INR 25,800 crores. • Live SIPs grew from 3.5 million to 3.73 million. • Emphasis on digital transformation with over 90 installations of CAMS Wealthserv.

Financial Performance • Average AUM: INR 30 trillion (14.1% YoY growth). • Revenue: INR 261 crores (10.4% YoY growth). • Asset-based revenue: INR 190 crores (5.5% YoY growth). • Non-asset-based revenue: INR 37.5 crores (14.2% YoY growth). • Operating EBITDA margin: 42.2%. • Profit Before Tax: INR 101.91 crores (17% increase). • Profit After Tax: INR 76.34 crores (18% increase). • Cash position: INR 509 crores; announced interim dividend of INR 8 per share.

Future Outlook • Non-mutual fund contributions projected to reach 20% in 2.5 to 3 years. • Plans to gradually acquire remaining stake in Think Analytics. • Confidence in maintaining yield stability and growth in non-mutual fund segments.

Operating Expenses Discussion • Increase in operating expenses attributed to variable costs and investments in software/cloud services. • Operating expenses represent 7.5% to 8% of overall income.

New Business Initiatives • Digital loan assignment service in E-Insurance is experimental. • Initial costs for new businesses are high, but revenue is beginning to grow.

Questions and Clarifications • Costs associated with new deal wins in the mutual fund sector are manageable. • Revenue generation for Think Analytics projected to grow from INR 28-30 crores to at least INR 50 crores in 3-4 years. • Current focus on domestic market for proprietary technology platforms.

Conclusion • The call concluded with thanks from CFO Ramcharan and an invitation for further questions.

Summary from May 2023

Q4 FY '23 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Call Overview • Date: May 8, 2023 • Moderator: Nachiket Kale (Orient Capital) • Key Management Present: • Anuj Kumar (Managing Director) • Ramcharan SR (CFO) • Anish Sawlani (Head of Investor Relations) • Format: Recorded call with listen-only mode and Q&A session • Disclaimer: Forward-looking statements with inherent risks

Key DevelopmentsNavi Mutual Fund Migration: Successful transition to CAMS platform, contributing to INR 28 trillion AUM. • Equity Assets: Net sales increased from 63% to 73%, leading to a 0.5% rise in equity AUM. • Alternatives Business: 26% annual revenue growth driven by new client launches.

Digital Transformation • 20% of investor interactions shifted to digital. • CAMS WealthServ gained traction with over 75 sign-ups from top AIFs. • Growth in Finserv segment with new sign-ups and bank account validation efforts.

Regulatory Changes and Market Position • CAMSRep preparing for mandatory Demat for insurance policies, increasing consumer interest. • Strong position in NPS market with 27% revenue growth in CAMSPay. • Digital platforms (myCAMS, MFCentral) performing well with plans for enhancements.

Financial PerformanceRevenue: INR 249.2 crores for the quarter (2.5% YoY increase). • Mutual Fund Revenue: INR 222 crores, up from INR 217 crores YoY. • Non-MF Revenue: Grew 7.7% YoY, driven by AIF and payments sectors. • Profitability: Operating EBITDA at 44%, PBT of INR 98 crores.

Market InsightsDebt Mutual Funds: Surprising growth despite tax changes; 8-9% growth in late March. • Insurance Repository Market: Estimated future size of INR 150-200 crores with 35-40% growth rate.

Expense Management • Increased expenses due to legal and professional costs related to SEBI regulations. • Marketing expenses for "Reimagine" platform at INR 60 lakhs. • ESOP costs expected to decrease from INR 26.72 crores to INR 14 crores next year.

Conclusion • Ramcharan SR expressed gratitude to attendees and encouraged further inquiries. • The call concluded with thanks from the moderator.

Summary from February 2023

Q3 FY2023 Earnings Conference Call Summary

Call Overview • Date: February 8, 2023 • Moderated by: Orient Capital • Key Speakers: • Mr. Anuj Kumar (Managing Director) • Mr. Ram Charan Seshadri (Chief Financial Officer) • Format: Recorded call with Q&A session

Company Performance HighlightsSatisfactory Quarter: Emphasis on key operating metrics and developments. • Mutual Fund Business: • New mandates added. • AUM reached Rs. 27.8 trillion (6.1% growth in equity AUM). • Alternative Business: • Over 20% revenue growth. • Digital Onboarding: • CAMS WealthServ gained traction. • Insurance Sector: • New accounts and e-policies nearly doubled. • Innovations: • Use of account aggregator data for bank validation. • Launch of Fintech Innovation Lab with IIT Madras.

Consumer EngagementUser Participation: • Daily app logins exceeded 10,000. • Market Share: • 68.3% market share with 6% QoQ growth in SIP collections. • Revenue Growth: • Alternatives business grew 20% YoY.

Financial PerformanceRevenue: • Rs. 243.57 Crores (2.5% YoY increase). • AUM Growth: • 4.3% YoY increase to Rs. 27.83 Lakh Crores. • Asset-Based Revenue: • Increased by 4.5% to Rs. 187.5 Crores. • Non-Asset-Based Revenue: • Declined by 8.8%. • EBITDA Margins: • Improved to 44.5%. • Profit Before Tax: • Rs. 97.94 Crores. • Interim Dividend: • Declared at Rs. 10.5 per share.

Strategic InitiativesDiversification: • Aim to increase non-mutual fund revenue from 10% to 20%. • Growth Areas: • Focus on alternatives, insurance, and payments. • MF Central Initiative: • Designed as a consumer utility, not profit-driven.

Insurance Repository BusinessRevenue Streams: • Policy conversion fees and annual maintenance charges. • Market Potential: • Anticipated growth with regulatory changes. • Competitive Landscape: • Distributed market dynamics; confidence in maintaining market share.

Future OutlookE-KYC Services: • Early-stage strategies for enhancement. • Revenue Growth: • Expected gradual ramp-up in various segments. • Operating Expenses: • Stable with no significant optimization anticipated.

Q&A HighlightsDepreciation Increase: • Due to capital expenditures, no accounting policy changes. • Yield Cuts in Mutual Funds: • Some contracts experienced yield price distribution. • Insurance Repository Market: • Competitive landscape with no default repository.

Conclusion • The call concluded with an invitation for further inquiries, emphasizing ongoing investments and strategic growth initiatives.